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X Factor

Worst thing to happen to the Music industry from a talent point of View IMO.

undiscovered world class talent gets 'discovered' and makes career, makes money for many and brings pleasure to many and you think it's the worst thing to happen to the music industry! Very strange point of view.
 
undiscovered world class talent gets 'discovered' and makes career, makes money for many and brings pleasure to many and you think it's the worst thing to happen to the music industry! Very strange point of view.

When you say makes money, do you mean the record company IE Simon C.

Its an easy option for Music Moguls to make a quick buck.
 
where did you hear that? link?

It was mentioned on a TV interview years ago by either an ex-judge (e.g. Sharon Osbourne before she came back) or a pop star who'd been approached to get the job but declined... they said something like "and the bonus for winning is pretty nice" or something like that in referral to the perks of the job.

When you say makes money, do you mean the record company IE Simon C.

Its an easy option for Music Moguls to make a quick buck.

Both. Leona Lewis is reported to ask up to £1million appearance fees, and has a £5million recording contract alone.

One Direction are worth an estimated £775million.

Alexandra Burke has made a reported £6.1million since winning.

Each member of JLS were worth £6million when they split.

Oh, and Jedward are worth £5million too.

That's all from the Mirror - and even if their figures are off by half, those people will have made a pretty penny or two!!

The other thing is the career they have after they've done Xfactor isn't always as public as Xfactor. Alexandra Burke appeared in The Bodyguard in the West End, runner up Diana Vickers appeared in Little Voice in the West End as now is in a new comedy on ITV.

Plus, of course, they all do the Butlins rounds a couple of years after they appear. It may not be the rock and roll lifestyle, but it's a nice little earner I'm sure!

I'll finish this XFactor lesson now :D
 
It was mentioned on a TV interview years ago by either an ex-judge (e.g. Sharon Osbourne before she came back) or a pop star who'd been approached to get the job but declined... they said something like "and the bonus for winning is pretty nice" or something like that in referral to the perks of the job.


I see the word estimated a lot....

The winners might make a few quid, but not as much as SC does and its all on his terms.


Both. Leona Lewis is reported to ask up to £1million appearance fees, and has a £5million recording contract alone.

One Direction are worth an estimated £775million.

Alexandra Burke has made a reported £6.1million since winning.

Each member of JLS were worth £6million when they split.

Oh, and Jedward are worth £5million too.

That's all from the Mirror - and even if their figures are off by half, those people will have made a pretty penny or two!!

The other thing is the career they have after they've done Xfactor isn't always as public as Xfactor. Alexandra Burke appeared in The Bodyguard in the West End, runner up Diana Vickers appeared in Little Voice in the West End as now is in a new comedy on ITV.

Plus, of course, they all do the Butlins rounds a couple of years after they appear. It may not be the rock and roll lifestyle, but it's a nice little earner I'm sure!

I'll finish this XFactor lesson now :D

I don't see any of these " artists" having long careers and i see the word estimated a lot in your "lesson"
 
I don't see any of these " artists" having long careers and i see the word estimated a lot in your "lesson"

Not many artists have "long careers" these days as music tastes change regulary

Regardless of what feelings people have about the reality shows they do find people with amazing talent and have given people a break their talents have deserved

It is a very hard industry to break and X Factor etc gives people the chance to break into it - same with all the singing or dancing etc reality shows.

It has made people superstars
 
When you say makes money, do you mean the record company IE Simon C.

Its an easy option for Music Moguls to make a quick buck.

I don't see any of these " artists" having long careers and i see the word estimated a lot in your "lesson"

my post was very clear it makes money for many, including serious money for the individuals as dufferman has pointed out. SUBO received a payout in her first year of £5million where 12 mths earlier was in a council house with no prospects or career.

Your posts are clearly just looking to be negative and are coming across as either jealous or bitter. There are many other channels to watch and many other threads to post on:whoo:
 
The only issue that I have with the likes of X-Factor, Strictly CD and all the Soaps is that they dominate TV the only time of the year I am likely to be able to sit down with my family to watch something together - over Christmas and New Year - especially Christmas. I don't watch any soaps or much in the way of reality stuff and I really do not worry at all about how much of it there is on 360days of the year - plenty of other channels to watch, progs/films recorded etc.

But Christmas is a real pain. I would rather there is something on that I can watch with the rest of the family without having had to watch it before to know what it's about and who's who. Bit like Charity TV. I haven't a clue who most of the 'celebs' are - and without that I really don't care about what they are doing or what happens to them. And so I just don't watch (though I may donate).
 
That's because they are the most popular shows that people watch

What would you like to see instead

No soaps ? No reality telly ? No shows with celebs you don't know ?

What should they do to cater for you
 
The only issue that I have with the likes of X-Factor, Strictly CD and all the Soaps is that they dominate TV the only time of the year I am likely to be able to sit down with my family to watch something together - over Christmas and New Year - especially Christmas. I don't watch any soaps or much in the way of reality stuff and I really do not worry at all about how much of it there is on 360days of the year - plenty of other channels to watch, progs/films recorded etc.

But Christmas is a real pain. I would rather there is something on that I can watch with the rest of the family without having had to watch it before to know what it's about and who's who. Bit like Charity TV. I haven't a clue who most of the 'celebs' are - and without that I really don't care about what they are doing or what happens to them. And so I just don't watch (though I may donate).
as there are approximately 300 zillion channels now, and many specialist channels to cater with your taste whatever that is, what were you like when there was only 4 channels?:eek: :rolleyes:


you could even record on your viewing apparatus a whole days worth of your own specialist TV to suit just you. The rest of the family might not agree though:mmm:
 
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The only issue that I have with the likes of X-Factor, Strictly CD and all the Soaps is that they dominate TV the only time of the year I am likely to be able to sit down with my family to watch something together - over Christmas and New Year - especially Christmas. I don't watch any soaps or much in the way of reality stuff and I really do not worry at all about how much of it there is on 360days of the year - plenty of other channels to watch, progs/films recorded etc.

But Christmas is a real pain. I would rather there is something on that I can watch with the rest of the family without having had to watch it before to know what it's about and who's who. Bit like Charity TV. I haven't a clue who most of the 'celebs' are - and without that I really don't care about what they are doing or what happens to them. And so I just don't watch (though I may donate).

Not a huge fan of these shows although will watch SCD (only for Ola Jordan!!) but can't abide these reality shows and things like X Factor or Britains Got Talent (has it?). To be honest I'd usually be watching sport, comedy re-runs (Porridge etc) or a good documentary on Discovery or any of the related channels. Same at Christmas. I might watch the SCD special, things like Dr Who but once the soaps start I'll watch something I'd recorded earlier, find a documentary or a good film or stick some music on (basically anything that prevents me from having to converse with the wife)
 
That's because they are the most popular shows that people watch

What would you like to see instead

No soaps ? No reality telly ? No shows with celebs you don't know ?

What should they do to cater for you

I'm just saying that it's all meaningless to me - I'm not saying I know what is better. But having likes of Eastenders on three times on Christmas Day...
 
Not a huge fan of these shows although will watch SCD (only for Ola Jordan!!) but can't abide these reality shows and things like X Factor or Britains Got Talent (has it?). To be honest I'd usually be watching sport, comedy re-runs (Porridge etc) or a good documentary on Discovery or any of the related channels. Same at Christmas. I might watch the SCD special, things like Dr Who but once the soaps start I'll watch something I'd recorded earlier, find a documentary or a good film or stick some music on (basically anything that prevents me from having to converse with the wife)

That's pretty much me. But it doesn't make for much of a family day if we are all in different rooms watching different things. There you go. It's how it is.

BTW - I am not saying that the Christmas schedule shouldn't be as it is - I'm just saying that a lot of it doesn't do anything at all for me as I don't know who or what I'm watching and what's happened before.
 
Well that's to be expected if people have different tastes in what they watch

We don't watch any telly on Xmas Day until the evening then it's normally a film

It is going to be a big struggle for any telly company to find a program where "everyone" in the family will sit and watch all day long
 
Well that's to be expected if people have different tastes in what they watch

We don't watch any telly on Xmas Day until the evening then it's normally a film

It is going to be a big struggle for any telly company to find a program where "everyone" in the family will sit and watch all day long

Not sure that's what he's saying. He's got no issue with the Christmas offering and accepts everyone's tastes are different and that no company will offer "everyone" schedules although they go to great lengths to make sure the big must see's like Dr Who, Corrie, Eastenders etc are all scheduled not to clash. He was just saying these aren't his cup of tea (nor mine except perhaps Dr Who) and that he'd rather watch something more stimulating. I think the issue was more one of having to lump it (I hate brain dead tv watching too when I've no idea who is who and whats going on) for the sake of family unity or go off and watch it elsewhere.

Someone once said something about can't please all of the people and all that and TV schedules at any time of the year fall into that. If your bag is reality, talent, soap or the like you're well catered for. Howver if not there's still enough interesting and fulfilling stuff out there.
 
That's pretty much me. But it doesn't make for much of a family day if we are all in different rooms watching different things. There you go. It's how it is.

BTW - I am not saying that the Christmas schedule shouldn't be as it is - I'm just saying that a lot of it doesn't do anything at all for me as I don't know who or what I'm watching and what's happened before.

isn't that more of your own families issue and nothing to do with whats broadcast;)


Personally we have the tv off and sing songs around the piano, play party games and have music on in the background. Apart from 3pm where we all watch Her Majestys speech to her subjects then we all go for a bracing walk before Christmas dinner.
 
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