Wrong handicap

[bobmac]

I heard yesterday that one of our members (We'll call him Nigel) shot net 64 (SSS 70) in the medal on Saturday. A cracking score off 24.
I saw him the next day (yesterday) and he had just finished a knock out match. I asked him what he played off today and he told me as nothing was on the board, he played of 24.
Fortunately, he lost the match.

 

[birdieman]

Not sure what he can do. Many of us know the calculation to take handicaps down but many others dont so if the club hasn't posted the result and subsequent handicap changes what should he do?
The club really needs to get the result out the same day.
He'd have had 2.4 off I believe so should have been 21 or 22 hcap depending on his exact handicap.
Clubs fault I'd say.

 

[Twire]

I'm sure this happens in clubs around the country all the time Bob. I've checked opponents handicaps prior to playing them, but I've not checked weekend results before playing. Maybe that's something I should do now as it's been pointed out. Lot's of people don't realise that it's down to them to adjust their own handicap, they just wait for the h'cap sec to do it.

 

[19th]

I thought you were disqualified if you played off a higher handicap than you should.

The clubs delay in getting the comp results up is no excuse as it is the player that must play to his correct handicap or no higher.

I also thought that you erred on the side of caution - I would - and play off the lower handicap even if this was not shown on the board.

Better that than winning and then being disqualfied.

 

[viscount17]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

 

[Fyldewhite]

Not sure what he can do. Many of us know the calculation to take handicaps down but many others dont so if the club hasn't posted the result and subsequent handicap changes what should he do?

Find out how to calculate it and do what he's supposed to do ie reduce it himself. It's the players responsibility. Yes the committee should post results on time but there could be all sorts of reasons why it doesn't get done. It doesn't mean you can just stay "as you were" when you've shot a score like that.

 

[19th]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

If CSS is not known - SSS is used.

 

[bobmac]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

If CSS is not known - SSS is used.

 

[JezzE]

19th,
This is correct. We've had this a few times on here recently and under CONGU rules you are obliged to cut yourself using the SSS if the CSS is not known or not yet calculated.

 

[kid2]

Im not sure how it works across the pond but here in ireland I have a swipe card for the Golf Union Of Ireland.....Its linked to a central hub and the minute you enter your score as far as im aware it can calculate your handicap pretty quick.....
This happened me a few weeks ago also....I ended up getting a cut within a day.....

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Maybe a sign, above the knockout competition draw sheets, telling players that they should cut themselves would be a good idea Bob. Just as a gentle reminder.

Many of us know the rule but not all do. If "Nigel" is fairly new to the game he may not have been told about it. I only know it from chatting to the club pro when I was younger. In fact that's how I learnt most the rules I know.

 

[Region3]

Not wanting to cause an argument here, but Nigel is just plain wrong.

If he doesn't know th rule it's his fault not the clubs.

What reaction would we get if a post described a player breaking off branches of a small tree to get a better swing, because he didn't know the rules?
Clubs fault for not educating him?

 

[Fyldewhite]

Agree. If he had won the game he should have been disqualified no question. To me it's pretty obvious that if you do a good score you need to do something (you may not know what) before playing again. At the very least he should have asked around for a few opinions before just going out and playing off his old mark.

 

[RGDave]

I heard yesterday that one of our members (We'll call him Nigel) shot net 64 (SSS 70) in the medal on Saturday. A cracking score off 24.
I saw him the next day (yesterday) and he had just finished a knock out match. I asked him what he played off today and he told me as nothing was on the board, he played of 24.
Fortunately, he lost the match.

Fortunate indeed. i.m.o. he had no leg to stand on.
I've always believed the player carries some responsibility....if unsure, give yourself the maximum cut to make sure even if you end up playing off one shot too few or something.

 

[SharkAttack]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

If CSS is not known - SSS is used.

How can you do this? If CSS goes up you could still not cut yourself enough and play off a false handicap.

This is why I think CSS is just one step to far. Who cares if you get cut 0.2 to much or to little. Like luck it evens itself out over the season. I don't think I have seen CSS go up at my club enough to cover the scores that you can have when it is blowing or hosing it down. It may work in countries where the weather stays the same through the day, but as I have said before you can play in the afternoon in the pouring rain play to the buffer and find CSS goes down and your handicap still goes up because the weather was great in the morning.

Shark

 

[HRC99]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

If CSS is not known - SSS is used.

How can you do this? If CSS goes up you could still not cut yourself enough and play off a false handicap.

Because at least you have taken reasonable steps to ensure you play off the correct handicap.

 

[SharkAttack]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

If CSS is not known - SSS is used.

How can you do this? If CSS goes up you could still not cut yourself enough and play off a false handicap.

Because at least you have taken reasonable steps to ensure you play off the correct handicap.

I know, I just wanted to moan about CSS. It's done me out of 0.6 of cuts this season so far and hasn't helped me once .

 

[HRC99]

can they adjust themselves if the CSS isn't posted?

If CSS is not known - SSS is used.

How can you do this? If CSS goes up you could still not cut yourself enough and play off a false handicap.

Because at least you have taken reasonable steps to ensure you play off the correct handicap.

I know, I just wanted to moan about CSS. It's done me out of 0.6 of cuts this season so far and hasn't helped me once .

0.6? Pah, I'd be 1.2 lower this season if not for CSS.