DCB
Well-known member
No point in debating now, the Committee have published the result have they not. Done Deal 
Would you say anything?
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garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
is it against the rules for me to say to someone "you have come over the top etc" ?
i wouldnt worry too much about this tbh. if someone is needing swing changes during a competition then its doubtful they will win it tbh.
i wouldnt worry too much about this tbh. if someone is needing swing changes during a competition then its doubtful they will win it tbh.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
But she did win it by the looks of it and won money that came from other peoples entry fees.
Maybe she doesn't know the rules fully but the captain who was playing with her shouldn't have knowingly broke the rules to maybe give her any type of advantage.
Her not knowing the correct rules may cost her in a bigger comp further down the lie.
I'm all for more juniours getting into the game and making it fun for them but at the same time they should be taught the correct rules and etiquette of the game at the same time and it should be applied in all official comps they play in.
End of the day it's over and nothing can be done about it but i just hope her being taught the wrong rules by the men who were playing with her won't cost her at a later date.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
On the plus side i won £3.59 for my 2 today.
Now what to spend my huge winnings on!
Now what to spend my huge winnings on!
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
what is the rule though. are you not allowed to give someone tips while playing? im unaware of this too.
rosecott
Money List Winner
You should not give advice - end of story.
chris661
Money List Winner
1 pro v :mmm:
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Deleted Member 1156
Guest
I can't believe what I'm reading here. There has potentially been an incident of cheating and you guys are saying don't worry about it, let it go, not a big comp etc etc!
Cheating is cheating and even though it may not have been deliberate, it SHOULD be pointed out to the culprits so that theu know they can't do it again. The next time they do it could be in an important comp like club championship.
Cheating is cheating and even though it may not have been deliberate, it SHOULD be pointed out to the culprits so that theu know they can't do it again. The next time they do it could be in an important comp like club championship.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You should not ask for or give advice as a general rule but there are a number of exceptions:
Here are a few examples of what is OK:
How far is it to the green?
Is that a bunker or a hollow on the right fairway ahead?
What are the options I can take for an unplayable lie?
What is the line of play for this blind tee shot?
Here are a few examples of what is OK:
How far is it to the green?
Is that a bunker or a hollow on the right fairway ahead?
What are the options I can take for an unplayable lie?
What is the line of play for this blind tee shot?
Foxholer
Blackballed
Advice is specifically banned except from caddy or partner (team) (Rule 8.1). No exceptions!
None of the above 'examples' is advice. Questions of facts are not advice. Indicating line of play, the only 'question of fact' that night be considered advice, is covered by Rule 8.2. Having indicated line of play, should fellow competitor then add 'but, with your fade, you should aim 30yds left' that would be a breach of 8.1.
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Pants
Challenge Tour Pro
Bozza.
As you are obviously a bit concerned about this, why don't you just email the comp secretary your concerns and copy a link to this thread?
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As you are obviously a bit concerned about this, why don't you just email the comp secretary your concerns and copy a link to this thread?
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Foxholer
Blackballed
The point is that it's YOU that gets the penalty in that case (if that's considered advice). (8.1a). Asking for advice , also a penalty, is 8.1b
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
i was just completly unaware of this. i am forever telling my friends, especially those new to the game, where they are going wrong. i had no idea that this would breech rules in competition.
miniTIGER95
Assistant Pro
Your blowing it way out of context. Yeah they gave her advice, but if you was her would you say no? If you want to be the guy to ruin the poor girls moment of glory, then do it.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
Bozza.
As you are obviously a bit concerned about this, why don't you just email the comp secretary your concerns and copy a link to this thread?
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If it had directly affected me and it had been at my home club I would have had a quiet word but seeing as it was not and they are only cheating themselves at the end if the day.
I was just after other peoples opinions as to what they think and what they would do.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
That she got by breaking the rules.
My moment of glory would be wining my club championship but if I did that by breaking a rule would that be ok?
Just because they are a junior they should not be exempt from following rules in a comp.
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
I would let it go. In the greater scheme of things it isn't that bad. As this forum shows a lot of people misunderstand this and many other rules. How many others in that comp may have unintentionally broken a rule? As I think you say, you can't even be 100% sure that the girl was in the comp.
Ethan
Money List Winner
I think this is a tricky one. The simplest philosophy is that the rules must be followed, and any breaches brought to the attention of the player or the Committee. This is because all players have an obligation to do so to protect the field. In this case, this player needs to know that getting this advice is a breach because otherwise they may ask for advice in a bigger more important comp and get into more trouble. Better for her to find out now.
seochris
Challenge Tour Pro
I'm with Foxholer on this one....have a chat with the Captain and see what he says!
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
So if I am playing in a competition, start badly, and one of my fellow competitors (not partner, as it's a medal) says "Slow it down Rob, you're swinging too fast" is that a breach of rules???
