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Sorry if this is a daft question or has already been covered but how are acceptable AWAY scores returned?
Yes, I understand that you'd register your intent to play such, on the away Club's PSI but is that the only place you can record your round or is it possible to return the Score Card to your Home Club to be registered.
Obviously, this is when golf returns to 'Normal'.... whatever that means.
 

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Sorry if this is a daft question or has already been covered but how are acceptable AWAY scores returned?
Yes, I understand that you'd register your intent to play such, on the away Club's PSI but is that the only place you can record your round or is it possible to return the Score Card to your Home Club to be registered.
Obviously, this is when golf returns to 'Normal'.... whatever that means.

Dont know if this is the correct method or not, but I am simply asking members to inform me via email or text on the morning that they wish to play, then send me a pic of the card. I will then process it through Clubhouse.
Havent done one yet, though.
 

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Sorry if this is a daft question or has already been covered but how are acceptable AWAY scores returned?
Yes, I understand that you'd register your intent to play such, on the away Club's PSI but is that the only place you can record your round or is it possible to return the Score Card to your Home Club to be registered.
Obviously, this is when golf returns to 'Normal'.... whatever that means.
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Away cards can be entered at home club providing your admin/HC team have access to the WHS dashboard
 

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If it’s a World Handicap System why does it matter what country you are in?

As much as we would like all countries to have the same rules Scotland is sticking to it's own and not all countries have adopted the same rules that already existed in other countries that have used the system for years.
 

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If it’s a World Handicap System why does it matter what country you are in?
When it was first mentioned the publicity said there would initially be variations for local customs and traditions. It hoped/expected that there will be more standardisation as time goes on.
But there is now one system that is fundamentally the same around the world as opposed to six quite different ones previously.
 

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In my hours of boredom I've been looking over a few things WHS.
I've noticed that my scores, imported from Whipsnade, show a slope of 125 - we always played from the yellows as the Old Boys couldn't handle the whites.
The Whipsnade website is showing a "provisional slope rating certficate" giving the yellows a slope of 114.
This, I imagine, would make a difference to the course handicap allocated to that round in their calculations and therefore the differential and therefore the new HI...
Is this worth pointing out.?
There are only 5 cards left from Whipsnade so they'll probably be gone fairly soon ( end of January probably)
 

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In my hours of boredom I've been looking over a few things WHS.
I've noticed that my scores, imported from Whipsnade, show a slope of 125 - we always played from the yellows as the Old Boys couldn't handle the whites.
The Whipsnade website is showing a "provisional slope rating certficate" giving the yellows a slope of 114.
This, I imagine, would make a difference to the course handicap allocated to that round in their calculations and therefore the differential and therefore the new HI...
Is this worth pointing out.?
There are only 5 cards left from Whipsnade so they'll probably be gone fairly soon ( end of January probably)

If these were competitive rounds I assume the yellow tees were marked on the card and so surely need to calculated against the correct slope. If they have been incorrectly assessed I assume you can get them changed but also presume you'll need Whipsnade to a) get a verified yellow tee certificate and b) get them to agree to look at the cards. Personally I'm sure I'd bother
 
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I had a look today, (bored like a few of us), and lo and behold, it has me playing my comps off the yellow tees. I have NEVER played off the yellow tees, except when I'm playing with a visitor maybe. All our comps are off the white tees.They have the slope at 130 off yellow, (I'm sure we are 133 off white), and the course rating at 69.6 (yellow). I think our course rating is 71.2 off white.
My handicap was 11.1 on Congu. Now it is listed at 11.3. Will this change, as I presume this is a basic clerical error?
 
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I had a look today, (bored like a few of us), and lo and behold, it has me playing my comps off the yellow tees. I have NEVER played off the yellow tees, except when I'm playing with a visitor maybe. All our comps are off the white tees.They have the slope at 130 off yellow, (I'm sure we are 133 off white), and the course rating at 69.6 (yellow). I think our course rating is 71.2 off white.
My handicap was 11.1 on Congu. Now it is listed at 11.3. Will this change, as I presume this is a basic clerical error?

Up to your club to sort it out.

WHS support are not interested and have passed the buck back to the clubs.

Mine is a mess, scores missing and incorrect scores included as my counting scores. Quite a few others at my club in the same boat, our secretary predicted this mess months and to say he is less than impressed is an understatement.
 

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Up to your club to sort it out.

WHS support are not interested and have passed the buck back to the clubs.
If your club sends full details to whs.support@etc will deal with it. They literally have many hundreds of queries outstanding which are now being dealt with on an individual basis. But looks like a ten day Q.

....scores missing and incorrect scores included as my counting scores. Quite a few others at my club in the same boat, ...
Much but not all of this apparently was a problem with data from the ISVs not successfully updating the CDH

Incidentally, it is reported that other countries that have already converted were taking 4 - 8 weeks to get sorted.
 
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Thanks for the info both saving_par, and rulefan.
This Lockdown has proved a bit of a blessing in disguise for WHS hasn't it? Just imagine, no Lockdown, and good weather ..........chaos!!
 

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Thanks for the info both saving_par, and rulefan.
This Lockdown has proved a bit of a blessing in disguise for WHS hasn't it? Just imagine, no Lockdown, and good weather ..........chaos!!
Indeed. They originally chose the date because it preceded a relatively quiet time for competitions. Lockdown is a bonus.
 
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If your club sends full details to whs.support@etc will deal with it. They literally have many hundreds of queries outstanding which are now being dealt with on an individual basis. But looks like a ten day Q.


Much but not all of this apparently was a problem with data from the ISVs not successfully updating the CDH

Incidentally, it is reported that other countries that have already converted were taking 4 - 8 weeks to get sorted.

WHS support have responded by saying it is up to the clubs to input the scores. Since there are quite a lot of players with incomplete records this is a lot of work for club officials to carry out.

My question would be, why are the clubs having to sort it out? I can see all my q and nq comp rounds on the my rounds section of IG and yet my WHS handicap record has big gaps in the scores showing on it.

WHS support should be working with the ISV's to ensure CDH updates are completed correctly, ISV's are after all getting paid by clubs and I'm sure DotGolf are getting paid handsomely by England Golf, Ireland Golf and Wales Golf.
 
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Disappointed to realise that as a result of the new system, I am no longer eligible for Surrey 5s (Club knockout, handicaps 5-18)... my old handicap was 5.7, but new one is 4.3. Even though 90% of courses will see me playing off 5, I can’t play ?
 

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Disappointed to realise that as a result of the new system, I am no longer eligible for Surrey 5s (Club knockout, handicaps 5-18)... my old handicap was 5.7, but new one is 4.3. Even though 90% of courses will see me playing off 5, I can’t play ?

I would expect that a lot of clubs and organisations are going to have to review the handicap criteria with the introduction of the WHS particularly as the recommendation is to use Handicap Index.
 

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Watching the golf monthly you tube guide to handicap

Notice they have giving out the misinformation that slope is difficulty of the course rather than the difference between what a scratch golfer and bogey golfer would expect
 
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