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And as if by magic, my HI has changed yet again, but we all seem to be up to date.

Until we’re not.
 

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Just got this from our handicap sec

As per my earlier mails the course and slope ratings transferred from I.G to England Golf / DotGolf are incorrect, we are awaiting confirmation when they have been corrected, until then I wouldn't bother looking as handicap index's shown are ALL incorrect.

Least if courses close hopefully they can sort it out
I've sent a similar message to all members, knowing that there may be a few trying to work out what is going on. Had one member text me directly, before I sent out the general e-mail, saying:

"No Idea about WHS now mate. According to the R&A my index should be calculated by taking my best 5 scores from the 15 scores in there. Originally they used 4 but now for some reason they've used 2?? I'm confused....thought I understood it"

I wonder how many other golfers are feeling this today.
 

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I'm playing tomorrow and just imagining the conversation when we throw the balls up and sort out the shots...

"What are you off?"

"Choose one of these 3 and pick something out of the air" ?

Club website, ie yesterday's official CONGU:
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IG APP, I think it's taking a holiday...
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WHS website (at the moment) says +3.2 which is clearly not correct yet ?‍♂️

My IG app is saying the same... Patiently waiting...
 

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Just got this from our handicap sec

As per my earlier mails the course and slope ratings transferred from I.G to England Golf / DotGolf are incorrect, we are awaiting confirmation when they have been corrected, until then I wouldn't bother looking as handicap index's shown are ALL incorrect.

Least if courses close hopefully they can sort it out

That's interesting....I was under the impression that you had to manually enter your course information on the DotGolf website....at least that's what my club were told to do back in July...which we did....and, fingers crossed, we don't seem to have half the problems that other clubs/courses do with regards missing scores etc.
 

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Mine looks ok now apart from they haven’t included a score from my last medal that I NR’d one hole but completed the rest. Nett double bogie should’ve meant a 6 shot reduction on my current 8th best. Guess I’ll just accept the extra shot that gives me! :)
 

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Nett double bogie should’ve meant a 6 shot reduction on my current 8th best.

I’m not sure it’s quite that clear cut. I have scores in my last 20 not included in my HI calculation which, on the face of it, are a number of strokes better than some which are.

I’ve long since given up trying to work it out and am relying on the software to take care of it.
 

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I’m not sure it’s quite that clear cut. I have scores in my last 20 not included in my HI calculation which, on the face of it, are a number of strokes better than some which are.

I’ve long since given up trying to work it out and am relying on the software to take care of it.
Its the Score Diff(erential) column you need to look at.
They take the 8 lowest from there..
 
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So situation

1. All the scores have now been entered into the WHS portal and they are now looking at the best 8 from 20 so your Handicap Index should be currently correctly

2. But because there was an issue with the upload of all the scores from October the ISVs have been told to not do the upload from the WHS to then put all the data on the clubs front end ( which ever it is )

3. It shows a complete lack of testing and understanding the data and the level of the data
 

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I’m not sure it’s quite that clear cut. I have scores in my last 20 not included in my HI calculation which, on the face of it, are a number of strokes better than some which are.

I’ve long since given up trying to work it out and am relying on the software to take care of it.

Think it’s been confirmed they should be included, and were included in my previous Congu handicap calculation as that.
 
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My data has now been uploaded and it looks like the correct handicap on EG WHS Portal. Still wrong on HDID.
 

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Its the Score Diff(erential) column you need to look at.
They take the 8 lowest from there..

That’s currently not available via HDID, presumably because of the transition. Is it hidden away anywhere on the WHS platform because all I can see there is adjusted gross score and HI?
 

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Think it’s been confirmed they should be included, and were included in my previous Congu handicap calculation as that.

I’m not suggesting they won’t be included, but clearly your HI is based on the average of your best 8 scores, so a good round which would previously have led to a significant cut in your CONGU handicap won’t have quite the same impact on your HI.

I think.
 

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That’s currently not available via HDID, presumably because of the transition. Is it hidden away anywhere on the WHS platform because all I can see there is adjusted gross score and HI?
You need to get into the system. If youre email hasn't been sent over then you might not be able,e to.
If you can and the numbers aren't all there then the system is probably still catching up.
 

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So last Thursday I played in a 18 hole stabledord. Finished in bz with 34 points. Won div, only one in it. WHS Hcap has gone from 15.2 to 16 ? it also mentioned this on the WHS

Playing Conditions Calculation: When abnormal course or weather conditions cause scores to be unusually high or low on a given day, a “Playing Conditions Calculation” will adjust Score Differentials to better reflect a player’s actual performance.
It showed a -1 at the side so is that good or bad.

also I played in 2 nine hole Comps off white tees. So is there a reason why they. One up as yellow on the WHS.
By the way I was rammel in both comps.
 

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Yep....like a lot of people....changed again. At least I'm back on to the last 20 scores and 2020 instead of 2019 now. Although.....back down to 7.9. I really need to get off my butt and figure how my average score for the 8 is 81.75 (par 72) but I'm 7.9 in the computer.
 

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That's interesting....I was under the impression that you had to manually enter your course information on the DotGolf website....at least that's what my club were told to do back in July...which we did....and, fingers crossed, we don't seem to have half the problems that other clubs/courses do with regards missing scores etc.

I got an index on the golf England website before the club had our slope rating confirmed I think that's the issue

We only opened as 18 in July been 9 until then
 

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I've sent a similar message to all members, knowing that there may be a few trying to work out what is going on. Had one member text me directly, before I sent out the general e-mail, saying:

"No Idea about WHS now mate. According to the R&A my index should be calculated by taking my best 5 scores from the 15 scores in there. Originally they used 4 but now for some reason they've used 2?? I'm confused....thought I understood it"

I wonder how many other golfers are feeling this today.

Normally I love maths and figures

This kind of stuff gets my inner need interested

But I've yet to make sense of what they have done

Trying to manually work it out but the guidance ain't amazing
 
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