Pathetic Shark
Tour Rookie
I wouldn't say some of the people here are that old but I heard a rumour the first lorry carrying the vaccines made a special scheduled stop at chrisd's house 
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I am one.
I am, maybe at risk, being over 55, just. I am healthy, fit ish, have no under lying health conditions. I don't eat out much, I don't go to pubs, or socialise hugely.I don't go to many concerts, football games, or use public transport, or go anywhere else I am likely to contract this virus. The lock downs have been inconvenient, but really have not effected me hugely. I am not planning on going abroad any time soon, and my passport ran out last year. I don't like flying anyway. Too many people.
My wife works from home, and is pretty much in the same boat as me.
I go to work, but there is a rigid policy re covid. It's pretty safe.
I am not registered with a GP, can't see the point, have seen a doctor twice in the last 20 years.
Vaccinations have two purposes. To prevent spread in the community, and to may be stop vulnerable people from getting a nasty illness. I am probably not vulnerable, and if enough vulnerable people have the vacine, I probably don't need it.
I have had the flu jab twice in 55 years. I have caught flu twice also, although clearly not connected.
My job as present would not require me to have the vaccine, neither would my preferred mode of transport, car.
I am, maybe at risk, being over 55, just. I am healthy, fit ish, have no under lying health conditions. I don't eat out much, I don't go to pubs, or socialise hugely.I don't go to many concerts, football games, or use public transport, or go anywhere else I am likely to contract this virus. The lock downs have been inconvenient, but really have not effected me hugely. I am not planning on going abroad any time soon, and my passport ran out last year. I don't like flying anyway. Too many people.
My wife works from home, and is pretty much in the same boat as me.
I go to work, but there is a rigid policy re covid. It's pretty safe.
I am not registered with a GP, can't see the point, have seen a doctor twice in the last 20 years.
Vaccinations have two purposes. To prevent spread in the community, and to may be stop vulnerable people from getting a nasty illness. I am probably not vulnerable, and if enough vulnerable people have the vacine, I probably don't need it.
I have had the flu jab twice in 55 years. I have caught flu twice also, although clearly not connected.
My job as present would not require me to have the vaccine, neither would my preferred mode of transport, car.
Ethan
Money List Winner
This is all just my opinion. Others may have other views.
Anderson seems well intentioned, and lack of specific expertise is not a major problem except that it limits the degree to which you can accurately critique other work. I was just struck by a remark he made about antibodies and then mentioned B-cells without seeming to realise the main function of the B-cell was to produce the antibodies. The work he cites is findable if you know where to look, but I agree it is useful to bring interesting information to the general audience, providing you can put some of it in context.
Gupta is a signatory of the Great Barrington Declaration. She has published some very controversial and largely discredited work. She may be an expert in theoretical epidemiology but she is not an expert in actually managing pandemics. She should be developing hypotheses for experimental testing, not extrapolating those hypotheses to policy recommendations. The second waves are proving her wrong. She said it was all more or less over in early summer.
Whitty is a different matter. I think he is pretty good, he is extremely measured and precise, a bit of an egghead, but ultimately a senior civil servant and cannot freely express his views in public, and probably only to a limited degree in private. I find it difficult to believe he was really an advocate of herd immunity in Feb/March. I don't find it hard to believe Patrick Vallance was, though.
Jamesbrown
Head Pro
I knew this question would come.
5g nanochips controlling me and then materialising me into a kill switch for a mass depopulation exercise.
Seriously, 30 years old, not overweight, haven’t had a flu or cold for years, get more than enough vitamins, well hydrated and not to mention I don’t even have an NHS number and wouldn’t be offered it if that’s how your contacted.
Unfortunately you didn’t include a not for a number of years option so I’m a No
Ethan
Money List Winner
That is a rational choice. it is all about benefit-risk. The national policy is that people at highest risk get priority, so it follows that people at much reduced risk are not a priority at all, indeed not even on the list, and you are one of those. Waiting to see what happens with the rollout is reasonable. The only probably snag will be if you want to go on holiday overseas and the country concerned demands a certificate of vaccination to let you in.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I'm having it. Given where I work and the number of staff we have had with the virus it makes perfect sense for me. I could be described as a sheep as I'm not put off by any side effects or the information for or against it being a success. Sign me up, vaccinate and we'll deal with what happens when it does. I get the flu jab (either at work or at the GP because of my diabetes but little getting away from it) and never question it. Sometimes I think some people can overthink the whole vaccination picture. It boils down to an individual choice but if you choose not to have any jab it doesn't reduce (in my opinion) the validity and effectiveness of the vaccination in question
Jamesbrown
Head Pro
We sacrificed our holidays abroad for three dogs and weeks in the wet Lincolnshire wolds and brown waters of the east coast.
Would usually go to Portugal for golf but won’t be booking anything for next year.
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Ok, fair enough. I wasn't thinking it through.
But somehow, I think they should reap what they sow (but in accordance with the principle that they don't affect "non-sowers" ? )
Beedee
Assistant Pro
Perhaps the anti-vaxxers should receive treatment, but only with homeopathic remedies.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
I saw someone on Facebook ranting about not getting a vaccine due to safety reasons. I pointed out she doesn't wear a mask, ignored lockdown, eats absolute garbage, sniffs coke laced with rat poison and gets a mobile lash lady to pump her face full of cheap filler, so can't be that bothered about safety. She countered with she was worried the government might want to track her
I welcome the gov tracking me.. might help me.remember what I was suppose to do today
rulefan
Tour Winner
So you have no problem with getting the virus with virtually no symptoms and then infecting others?
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
When did I say this?
I have avoided getting this virus (unless I have already had it), doing exactly what I would normally do, for the best part of 8 months. Nothing that I would normally do will change. Why do you think I will suddenly get it, and give it to others? Especially if a significant proportion of the others are vaccinated against it? Given that those vaccinated are less likely to have it, my chances of getting it go from remote, to extremely remote.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Assuming you were born in UK, I would not thought it possible not to have a NHS number.
Jamesbrown
Head Pro
I had one, but on the data base I was replaced with another chap with the same name and date of birth who may have lost his number when all numbers changed in the mid nineties.
Unfortunately there isn’t much protection of your data within the NHS, any admin staff can access and change it without scrutiny.
So another me has my stolen my number, I’ve had it changed back once, but it was swapped again rather than creating him a new one or me one.
I’ve since more or less gave up and gone private and buy my meds online.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Jamesbrown
Head Pro
All the way from the far east!
I don’t geo politicise medication unless they’re from North Korea.
Plus it’s just generic, nothing special.
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
You don't have to say it. The virus will stay out there for a long time, longer if people don't get vaccinated.
"Why do you think I will suddenly get it"? What sort of reasoning is that? It isn't something you apply for
Nor is it something you choose to give to others..
Why do you not wish to be vaccinated, given that if you do ,you will assist in reducing this virus spread?
Do you see a cost to helping the community in this respect?
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Backache
Assistant Pro
To be fair vaccines are the nearest thing there is to a homeopathic remedy that truly works.Perhaps the anti-vaxxers should receive treatment, but only with homeopathic remedies.
An absolutely tiny minute dose of a portion of the thing that does you harm which then prevents the thing doing you harm.
NearHull
Well-known member
A pp‘s neighbour took part in the Oxford Zeneca trials. She obviously wasn’t told whether she had the actual vaccine or a placebo - until they had to explain to her that there had been a mistake and she had only received half a dose on her initial jab!
result!
result!
ScienceBoy
Money List Winner
she was worried the government might want to track her
But probably spends all day posting every detail of their day on Facebook and lets Google or Apple collect loads of lovely data.
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