D-S
Well-known member
I have never heard of 4BB being anything other than pairs. Team formats are called Bowmakers or Team 4 ball or Team 3 ball.
WHS doesn't work
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wjemather
Well-known member
No. If entered directly on the WHS Platform, hole scores from regular stroke play (medal)/max score/par/bogey would need to be converted to Stableford first.
rulefan
Tour Winner
I have never encountered that. I have always seen them described as 'Best 2 (or 3) of 4' or occasionally as Bowmaker.
Within my club, if a large group are to be playing as teams of three or four, it is simply announced as 'Threes today' or 'Fours today' (3 to score / 2 to score)
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NearHull
Well-known member
Ah! You have answered my problem. It’s a bit of a pain converting to Stableford, but now I know how to directly enter 4BB medal - should I ever need to do so.
It’s still poor systems design from EG.
D-S
Well-known member
Seems a bit odd that an acceptable format of play (4BB Medal) has to be converted prior to input.
wjemather
Well-known member
It's dotgolf design, not EG.
At least we don't have to manually calculate the adjusted individual Stableford totals as they do in some parts of the world!
Alan Clifford
Well-known member
Individual gross with most likely scores is the way to go. (Ducks and quickly exits the premises
)Troymcclure
Medal Winner
Have I got this right?
Played 2 comps since 1st April. For the first, the Pro Shop issued the scorecards with handicaps pre-printed. I thought this would be the norm now post 1st April. For the second we had to fill in the cards ourselves.
My friends wrote down their CH, either from memory or after looking at the board, and calculated 95% for their PH. I merely wrote down my HI.
When swapping cards I had to explain when queried, as so often, that it wasn’t mandatory to enter my handicap so I didn’t bother.
I then, mistakenly(?) went on to say there’s little point anyway, unless using the app maybe?, as my PH calculation might well be wrong because of the recent changes.
Cue blank looks, and when I introduced the phrase machine precision they looked ready to phone the men in white coats.
So, post round we entered our scores at the terminal (old skoolers - phones left in car) and they delighted in showing me that their PH’s were as calculated.
But that was co-incidence right? Or have I mis-understood the recent changes so badly I need to go back to school?
Played 2 comps since 1st April. For the first, the Pro Shop issued the scorecards with handicaps pre-printed. I thought this would be the norm now post 1st April. For the second we had to fill in the cards ourselves.
My friends wrote down their CH, either from memory or after looking at the board, and calculated 95% for their PH. I merely wrote down my HI.
When swapping cards I had to explain when queried, as so often, that it wasn’t mandatory to enter my handicap so I didn’t bother.
I then, mistakenly(?) went on to say there’s little point anyway, unless using the app maybe?, as my PH calculation might well be wrong because of the recent changes.
Cue blank looks, and when I introduced the phrase machine precision they looked ready to phone the men in white coats.
So, post round we entered our scores at the terminal (old skoolers - phones left in car) and they delighted in showing me that their PH’s were as calculated.
But that was co-incidence right? Or have I mis-understood the recent changes so badly I need to go back to school?
D-S
Well-known member
You were right, the odds were in their favour as the unrounded handicap thing only affects a minority of instances (someone mentioned 17% once?) - but they could well have been wrong.Have I got this right?
Played 2 comps since 1st April. For the first, the Pro Shop issued the scorecards with handicaps pre-printed. I thought this would be the norm now post 1st April. For the second we had to fill in the cards ourselves.
My friends wrote down their CH, either from memory or after looking at the board, and calculated 95% for their PH. I merely wrote down my HI.
When swapping cards I had to explain when queried, as so often, that it wasn’t mandatory to enter my handicap so I didn’t bother.
I then, mistakenly(?) went on to say there’s little point anyway, unless using the app maybe?, as my PH calculation might well be wrong because of the recent changes.
Cue blank looks, and when I introduced the phrase machine precision they looked ready to phone the men in white coats.
So, post round we entered our scores at the terminal (old skoolers - phones left in car) and they delighted in showing me that their PH’s were as calculated.
But that was co-incidence right? Or have I mis-understood the recent changes so badly I need to go back to school?
Troymcclure
Medal Winner
Excellent, thanks.
Supplementary question: if we use the app (IG) to enter our scores, that will I assume show the correct PH?
Supplementary question: if we use the app (IG) to enter our scores, that will I assume show the correct PH?
D-S
Well-known member
Yup.
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Do you not sign in before the round? We do using V1 and it tells you your course and playing HC when you sign in.
Troymcclure
Medal Winner
I’m sure it’s an option but I’ve always signed in at the pro shop. I’m in there anyway buying something or other. And by signing in I mean verbally, no terminal there.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I've just done a test looking at handicaps 0-30.
Overall, on 24% of occasions, the PH is different depending on whether you use machine precision or if you simply take 95% of the whole number CH.
However, there are certain handicap zones in which there is rarely a difference, while there are other zones in which the difference is more common.
CH 0-2: Diff = 10%
CH 3-4: Diff = 20%
CH 5-8: Diff = 30%
CH 9: Diff = 40%
CH 10: Diff = 50%
CH 11: Diff = 40%
CH 12-13: Diff = 30%
CH 14-15: Diff = 20%
CH 16-17: Diff = 10%
CH 18-20: Diff = 0%
CH 21- 22: Diff = 10%
CH 23- 24: Diff = 20%
CH 25- 26: Diff = 30%
CH 27- 28: Diff = 40%
CH 29- 30: Diff = 50%
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I lost a shot on the 95% this week....First time.
Index 6.8
CH 8.504
PH 8.
Not that it made a difference
PH on GP card 9....
Index 6.8
CH 8.504
PH 8.
Not that it made a difference
PH on GP card 9....
rosecott
Money List Winner
I lost a shot on the 95% this week....First time.
Index 6.8
CH 8.504
PH 8.
Not that it made a difference
PH on GP card 9....
Surely PH does not apply for GP cards - only CH.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
120 played in a medal board comp on Saturday. 1st, 4th and 5th were 5 handicappers. Rest of top 10 were all under 16 hcap. Excellent weather and course in nice condition. Seems fair to the lower handicappers.
AussieKB
Well-known member
Just checked scores at one of my old clubs back in Perth, winning score 45 off a 20 handicap and then
43 off a 29
43 off a 25
42 off a 23
1st single figure golfer came 15th with 37 points off a 9
Field of 180 players, lowest handicap plus 7 and a total of 26 single figure golfers.
Australia GS (no such thing as WHS) sure works well for single figure golfers.
43 off a 29
43 off a 25
42 off a 23
1st single figure golfer came 15th with 37 points off a 9
Field of 180 players, lowest handicap plus 7 and a total of 26 single figure golfers.
Australia GS (no such thing as WHS) sure works well for single figure golfers.
wjemather
Well-known member
Not having divisions/flights in a field of 180 is ridiculous.
It's also a bit ridiculous to blame the system for what is, in general, clearly not particularly great scoring by the lower handicappers relative to their demonstrated ability. One or two better than handicap is never going to be a prize winning score in in field half that size, even more so in a Stableford.
AussieKB
Well-known member
Totally agree I cannot believe they did not break the course record to maybe run 3rd.....they either need to practice more or maybe game the system and get more handicap.
