When is it ok to move an obect.

[GB72]

May be a silly question but am intrigued as to if and when an piece of wood ceases to be classed as moveable. I know that there is no problem moving twigs, leaves etc that are dead and not attached to anything but yesterday my ball became lodged under half a chopped down tree. The tree had been there for some time, was a bit rotten and with a good shove could have been rolled away from my ball. I did not move it and took a penalty but wondered whether I would have been within my rights to do so.

 

[backwoodsman]

Ahh, now, that's the beauty of this game - the answer is, "it all depends". If the tree was still attached to its stump then, no you can't move it. But if it had come free from the stump and it was not "firmly embedded", then it would be a loose impediment and you could have moved it.

 

[thecraw]

AKA, Tiger and his big feck off rock in the dessert when he got a band of approx 20 spectators to remove a rock for him!

 

[TonyN]

i watched this on you tube, funny how people will lick a** for Tiger.

'hey mom, i helped move a great huge rock today for tiger woods' Why son ' oh, it was just in his way'

 

[medwayjon]

i watched this on you tube, funny how people will lick a** for Tiger.

Yup, I know exactly what you mean Tony, exactly. Next thing is the great one will have a religious sect who worship him as their god.

 

[markwarne]

On the same thread, what are you allowed to "remove" on a green?

My partner told me the other day that you could not repair a pitch mark that was lying between your ball and the hole. Is this true? I often remove bunker gravel or the odd bit of sand gets swept away. Obviously leaves and twigs also.

But at what point am I breaking the rules? End of the day, if a pebble is between me and a birdie / par, its gonna get moved.

 

[The23rdman]

i watched this on you tube, funny how people will lick a** for Tiger.

Yup, I know exactly what you mean Tony, exactly. Next thing is the great one will have a religious sect who worship him as their god.

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[backwoodsman]

On the same thread, what are you allowed to "remove" on a green?

You can remove loose impediments (stones, twigs, leaves etc and which on the green includes sand and loose soil) and you can remove movable obstructions (sweet wrapper, the greenkeepers mower etc). You can repair pitch marks - even if it's on the line of your putt. As far as I can tell, it doesn't have to be your own pitch mark either.

 

[Tommo21]

I always ask my playing partner when I intend to repair a pitch mark. They will confirm it is a pitch mark as you're not allowed to sort or level other blemishes.

 

[Dave3498]

I always ask my playing partner when I intend to repair a pitch mark. They will confirm it is a pitch mark as you're not allowed to sort or level other blemishes.

Thank you TOMO21. See also the thread on Damaged Hole - 27/03/08

 

[backwoodsman]

I always ask my playing partner when I intend to repair a pitch mark. They will confirm it is a pitch mark as you're not allowed to sort or level other blemishes.

Thank you TOMO21. See also the thread on Damaged Hole - 27/03/08

Indeed - yes, you can repair a pitch mark; no you can't repair other damage. But... the rules don't require that you ask your opponent about pitch marks. But if your opponent later mentions to the competition committee that you were fiddling with the green - and your oppo' is perfectly entitled do do so - then as you won't be able to prove it was a pitch mark, you're almost certain to cop the appropriate penalty. So.... prudent to ask - yes; essential to ask - sort of; required to ask - no. And yes, I know I'm a pedant... (I said pedant )