Mandofred
Well-known member
I'm just assuming it's cancelled. They just haven't cleared the "books" so to speak.
When do you think you will next play golf?
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HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Sounds like a man after my own heart. Usually there at first light at the weekend hitting a few before the roll up and working on my game from 100 yards and in after work in the week. Hoping everyone will rush to play and let me get my swing back on track alone
Mandofred
Well-known member
Exactly...I put out cones at 40-60-80 and maybe 100. Too bad I can't take my game from the field out to the course.....poop.
howbow88
Hacker
Well I don't know his source, and neither do you. You were happy enough to 'trust your mate from the county', and I daresay that Iain Carter probably thought that the rumours had some legs.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Golfers from the same pod. I have a decent short game especially my chipping but get me on the course..... Of course it's in my head now so hoping the work I'm doing in the back garden (still gloriously inconsistent especially on the really short chips of a tight/bare lie) will help
virtuocity
Tour Winner
rosecott
Money List Winner
50p says it won't.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Looks like he's a lot more accurate than someone spouting tosh. At least he has the common sense to be honest and say they've had no official word.
Honesty - rumour. Ken which one I'll lean towards.
sunshine
Well-known member
When ever it is, if anyone turns up with dirty golf clubs for that first round since lockdown, they need flogging ?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
bit harsh on key workers on the front line whove been working their balls off, when will they have had time to clean their sticks unless theyve someone at home to do that for them!
unless theyre insomniacs of course sunshine
Well-known member
Given Carter's occupation and profile, he shouldn't be spreading rumour and misinformation. Many people will assume he is "in the know" and take his posts at face value.
howbow88
Hacker
If people are incapable of deciphering a very clear tweet, then they're the ones who have issues. Not Iain Carter.
Jacko_G
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Depreston
Club Champion
I highly doubt it as well tbf mate so I won’t take the bet
nickjdavis
Head Pro
There is nothing in England Golfs Operational Guidance (as of today) that suggests that courses will not be allowed visiting golfers.
https://www.englandgolf.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Operational-guidance.pdf
I've not seen anything in R&A guidelines that says anything similar either.
I know the Irish have issued guidelines saying that golf will be for members only living within 5km of the club but I've not seen anything similar for the UK. I don't profess to know much about golf in Ireland and what geographical reach clubs have in terms of where their membership is drawn from...but I do know my own local area...Just doing a rough count up....the 10 largest villages within 5 miles of my club have a total population of roughly 18,000 folk (one of them accounts for roughly 50% of that figure). Just three miles outside the 5 mile zone lie two towns with a combined population of 270,000 people. I know where a significant majority of our membership comes from...and its not within 5 miles of our club. Likewise I know where the vast majority of our visitors come from and you wouldn't be surprised to know that its not from within 5 miles of the club either!!!
Limiting players based on distance they live away from the club is a nonsensical idea which will restrict many clubs ability to do business. Assuming garden centres open as per the Phase One guidelines...will you be prevented from visiting your nearest one if it is more than 5 miles away? I doubt it very much...its utterly unpoliceable.
I therefore find it difficult to believe that golf clubs will be allowed to open but will be dictated to as to who they are allowed to have as customers (and expected to police this) based on where they live. If its as bad as what you fear...I wont be able to play until Mid June...and I'm the bloody Captain!!
GB72
Money List Winner
I think there has to be a middle ground. I also have not seen anything specific in the guidelines about it being members only but have seen quite a few clubs that have already announced that this will be how they will operate. Not all clubs apply the same membership model though so some consideration has to be given there I guess.
As for traveling, I have no idea how you deal with that. 5km seems too short a distance but I guess you do not want people doing a hundred mile round trip for a game. Guess this then plays into the just members idea as you could regulate based on being able to play at the nearest club that you are a member of within reason.
This whole thing just keeps throwing up more questions.
As for traveling, I have no idea how you deal with that. 5km seems too short a distance but I guess you do not want people doing a hundred mile round trip for a game. Guess this then plays into the just members idea as you could regulate based on being able to play at the nearest club that you are a member of within reason.
This whole thing just keeps throwing up more questions.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
All clubs are different in their revenue models....some can survive on their membership fee revenue alone, others have to relay on a mix of memberships and visitors. Although a small club ( our total annual membership fees wont even be half of the £750k you quote...and many of those will be paid on a quarterly or perhaps monthly basis) we have a good reputation and are a popular destination for visiting golfers and have many regular societies who have provided repeat booking for many years now. The income generated by such visitors is a key part of our financial model and to have lost a significant part of it over the early part of the "golfing season" will have some impact upon the finances....and the smaller the club the more impact such lost revenue will have. To be not likely to start generating new revenue for another month or more (if indeed visitors are restricted) just makes things harder for many small clubs...irrespective of how much money they may have "banked".
Yes you write your budgets and you make forecast's for your incoming revenue and try to account for things like bad weather over the winter, yes you try to take into account churn of members, but its really difficult to build in to your financial modelling the swathing reduction in revenue caused by something like Covid19. For sure some clubs might not make it out the other side of this, were confident that we can ride out the storm....but it wont be a smooth ride.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
All the papers are reporting that the Stay At Home instruction is to be scrapped on Monday, and the likes of sunbathing in parks will be allowed.
So maybe golf restarting next week is not so fanciful.
Whether that's a good idea or not is a different argument, but I'd say it's pretty likely to happen.
So maybe golf restarting next week is not so fanciful.
Whether that's a good idea or not is a different argument, but I'd say it's pretty likely to happen.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
It would definitely seem so. Not sure my club has any plans for anything other than 2 balls initially still but guess if restrictions are relaxed and we get over the initial surge of people wanting to play that could easily change.
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