sunshine
Well-known member
The President is here to make golf great again
What is a fair suspension ?
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The President is here to make golf great again
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And so be it.
sunshine
Well-known member
You have to realise that some members have a lot of time on their hands and need to find something to occupy it.
My club has recently purchased new white flagsticks. I was chatting to the captain recently and he told me some members have complained that they preferred the old yellow flagsticks. They are the same design just a different colour.
You can get involved in this stuff if you want, but you really don't have to!
sunshine
Well-known member
Sadly this is very true at some golf clubs. Casual racism is still rife.
Jacko_G
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KenL
Tour Rookie
3 month suspension coming your way. ?
Red scorpion
Newbie
If other people are not happy with what they are doing,get names and call an egm.
TigerTime
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Foxholer
Blackballed
That's quite likely entirely appropriate! AFAIK, legal advice (whether at a cost or not) is entirely the 'property' of the requestor/recipient! They may choose to release it, describe it, or keep it to themselves, but that's THEIR choice!
If you are questioning anyone's 'honesty' about itholding legal advice, then there's far greater targets that you have likely had 'intimate' knowledge of imo!
slowhand
Head Pro
I’m no lawyer, but surely the argument could thus be made that since the advice was given to a members club, it’s the property of all them members, and so the OP was entitled to see it
Foxholer
Blackballed
FWIW. My understanding is that (generally) membership fees are a fixed amount, but may be paid in instalments. That's certainly the case at my club and is how I pay. It is stressed, in the agreement, that the 'instalment' method is purely for 'customer convenience' and the total cost is due - even when no play is permitted! My club was particularly generous (imo) and gave 2 month's worth of 'reduction' for this year's subs - something that cost them almost 15% of their sub income, but was a great gesture - typical of their 'business' approach to running a golf course!
Ethan
Money List Winner
If you defend an action by saying that you got legal advice, you kinda have to show what it said. And if that advice was obtained on behalf of, and paid by, a members club, surely the members have a right to see.
Foxholer
Blackballed
But was it?
You'd have to see Rules/Regs of Committee and determine how that advice was commissioned/received to determine whose 'property' it was! Personally, I'd believe it's likely to be 'priviledged' info - only available to certain areas of the club. However, it seems the gist of it has been made available to the OP - even if not accepted by him!
Foxholer
Blackballed
Depends on what Club Rules/Constitution say! And may not have been (specifically) paid for by 'The Club' either.
From what I percieve has happened (and I may be wrong), it seems to me that the OP reacted badly to being told he had to pay for the 'missed' period and his objections escalated out of control. I'm obviously not privy to the conversation, but swearing at the President of the club does not seem a smart thing to do! While it seems rather harsh, I believe accepting the 3 months suspension would be a far simpler/cheaper 'result' than getting lawyers involved! I'm pretty certain that the admissions on here would mean he'd lose a case for 'excess punishment' and, as i've previously stated, the obligation to continue paying subs, even though the coursed was closed by Covid restrictions, is fundamental to every 'deferred payment plan' that I know of!
So to the OP...Suck it up; pay the money; take the punishment! It doesn't seem, to me, that you are the sort to get involved with Club administration, but you are quite entitled to garner support for a 'member revolution' at the next AGM!
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Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
The second & third quotes are where I'm coming from.
The other point I'd make is that I'd have a couple of bob on the fact that any club in the country had some members who were not happy about paying fees for a service they weren't currently getting. If there is legal advice available to the club that proves the members are liable for subs despite the lack of service, why not simply pin it to the notice board, or email it to the members, and put the mutiny down before it starts; would that not be acting in the club's best interest by dispelling any misunderstanding?
D
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And do we know that the Committee didn't do any of that?
So far we have heard only one very limited version of events.
Foxholer
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See Post 182
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
Have you considered contacting The President and saying we both may have done/ said things in haste which we both have later regret.
Explain you were out of order for what you said but in the heat of the moment and apologise. Explain what you want from the situation and want an amicable resolution.
Also you do not want to leave the Club, if this is the case, and try and offer an olive branch, perhaps through gritted teeth.
Somebody has to make the first move and if there is no movement/ attempt to meet halfway you have done your best and then consider your options after you have explained your position
Explain you were out of order for what you said but in the heat of the moment and apologise. Explain what you want from the situation and want an amicable resolution.
Also you do not want to leave the Club, if this is the case, and try and offer an olive branch, perhaps through gritted teeth.
Somebody has to make the first move and if there is no movement/ attempt to meet halfway you have done your best and then consider your options after you have explained your position
KenL
Tour Rookie
Probably true but it might be that what they really want is an apology.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes I see your point.
But the President should quieten him by proving he wasn’t lying instead of using his mates on the comittiee to get rid of his accuser.
That’s what Dictators do.
