US Open 2019

Can we discuss Ricky Fowler? Who shot +6 yesterday after being in 2nd after the first round. Guy has so much talent but has to be the most fragile minded player out there.

Every major he gets hyped up, he even performs well with top 10s etc, but he is an awful closer.

I feel he gets a massive pass from criticism by the pundits? If Rory did some of the stuff he did Rory would be slated.


He once had a good finish at the players winning it with some superb work on the 17th and a lot of experts hyped it right up, but he just remained the same fragile player.

And he now has a haircut as of he's starring in deliverance!! 😀

IMHO all style over substance.
 
If he's under the hole he doesn't need to putt well per se just needs to hole enough and not make mistakes.

The way this course is set up it doesn't need to be the best putter that wins just the guy who makes least mistakes though the whole bag. It's not like previous US Opens with these Conditions. Hopefully a few tougher pin placements next couple days will open it up a bit for all

🤣🤣 in essence he just needs to putt well.....

Putting well and being the best putter are 2 different things.

I've backed Molinari,Matsuyama and Rose so if none of those win i'd like to see Woodland win. 👍
 
I have backed no one but lay my totally partisan credentials fairly and squarely on the table:

‘Mon Rory, son! You can do it, so you can’

If Rory doesn’t do the biz then Rosey or Matt Fitzpatrick if he keeps on going as he is currently.

But irrespective of the winner I’d love to play Pebble Beach. Possibly even more than I would Augusta.

Both picture book perfect but I prefer Pebble’s more natural ruggedness over Augusta’s manicured magnificence.
 
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Tiger is golf. End of discussion, let's not take another thread way off track. He is what he is, the GOAT!

Don’t forget to add “In Your Opinion” at the end 👍 - that way it shows it’s not factual comment

And “golf” is currently struggling 11 shots off the lead 🙄
 
Tiger is golf. End of discussion, let's not take another thread way off track. He is what he is, the GOAT!

Seriously how? Second in the list of major wins; and likewise in the list of career PGA tour wins. Had the greatest impact on the game yes, but Nicklaus way ahead as the greatest player given major wins...and even runners-up in majors..... (obviously IMO 😉😀)
 
Seriously how? Second in the list of major wins; and likewise in the list of career PGA tour wins. Had the greatest impact on the game yes, but Nicklaus way ahead as the greatest player given major wins...and even runners-up in majors..... (obviously IMO 😉😀)

If he gets to the most majors then the tour wins would fall. I'd imagine some would then still try to imply that the seconds mean he's not the goat.

Fwiw I think he'll get a few more tour wins but not the majors. I think a case can be made for him being the best, but not the greatest.

Re the coverage of him. The moaning about it by some is as tiresome as the coverage can become. Its American footage. His the most influential player as far as media coverage is concerned. We all know it happens.
 
Seriously how? Second in the list of major wins; and likewise in the list of career PGA tour wins. Had the greatest impact on the game yes, but Nicklaus way ahead as the greatest player given major wins...and even runners-up in majors..... (obviously IMO 😉😀)
I'm with Jacko for me Tiger is the GOAT🐐.

It's not just about his wins but his impact on the game, how its brought all the money into it, the impact he had on change in physical fitness and the golf he played was nothing short of phenomenonal. Everyone will have their own opinion on Jack v Tiger though.

As for the coverage I agree with Papas the whining about it is as boring as the coverage about it. You've got arguably the mist influential player of all time playing when leaders aren't out in course there's only one place the coverage is always going to be him. Would have been no different in the 70s and 80s with Jack being followed everywhere even if out of contention of leaders weren't out for another 2hrs.
 
Don’t forget to add “In Your Opinion” at the end 👍 - that way it shows it’s not factual comment

And “golf” is currently struggling 11 shots off the lead 🙄

He posted it, he wasn't quoting anyone, obviously it's his opinion. Why does he need to add "In Your Opinion" at the end?

Also, this Tiger and the Broadcast discussion is done in every major thread, lets try and avoid going over the same old arguments again and again. It's so boring.

Sucks for UK viewers that Rose and Woodland don't tee off for another 15 minutes, no way I'll be tuning in tomorrow night for the conclusion, might not even end up making it to the leaders teeing off. Love watching the course, but the 8 hour time difference is a real killer.
 
He posted it, he wasn't quoting anyone, obviously it's his opinion. Why does he need to add "In Your Opinion" at the end?

Also, this Tiger and the Broadcast discussion is done in every major thread, lets try and avoid going over the same old arguments again and again. It's so boring.

Sucks for UK viewers that Rose and Woodland don't tee off for another 15 minutes, no way I'll be tuning in tomorrow night for the conclusion, might not even end up making it to the leaders teeing off. Love watching the course, but the 8 hour time difference is a real killer.

It's a bit of "banter", getting his own back on what I did to him a couple of weeks back. All in good spirit.

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The greens firming up, balls star
He posted it, he wasn't quoting anyone, obviously it's his opinion. Why does he need to add "In Your Opinion" at the end?

Also, this Tiger and the Broadcast discussion is done in every major thread, lets try and avoid going over the same old arguments again and again. It's so boring.

Sucks for UK viewers that Rose and Woodland don't tee off for another 15 minutes, no way I'll be tuning in tomorrow night for the conclusion, might not even end up making it to the leaders teeing off. Love watching the course, but the 8 hour time difference is a real killer.
I head into London very early on a Monday, I’m considering going to bed early, and then getting up early and watching the final few holes Monday morning, depends what time the leaders go out.
 
He posted it, he wasn't quoting anyone, obviously it's his opinion. Why does he need to add "In Your Opinion" at the end?

Also, this Tiger and the Broadcast discussion is done in every major thread, lets try and avoid going over the same old arguments again and again. It's so boring.

Sucks for UK viewers that Rose and Woodland don't tee off for another 15 minutes, no way I'll be tuning in tomorrow night for the conclusion, might not even end up making it to the leaders teeing off. Love watching the course, but the 8 hour time difference is a real killer.
Spot on on both counts! I really want to watch the end tomorrow but I'm wondering what I'm going to do when I'm up for work at 6:30am Monday! Could nap from 9pm til 2am and wake up to watch the last few hours?? :unsure:
 
I'm with Jacko for me Tiger is the GOAT🐐.

It's not just about his wins but his impact on the game, how its brought all the money into it, the impact he had on change in physical fitness and the golf he played was nothing short of phenomenonal. Everyone will have their own opinion on Jack v Tiger though.

As for the coverage I agree with Papas the whining about it is as boring as the coverage about it. You've got arguably the mist influential player of all time playing when leaders aren't out in course there's only one place the coverage is always going to be him. Would have been no different in the 70s and 80s with Jack being followed everywhere even if out of contention of leaders weren't out for another 2hrs.

So what about Palmer and the impact he had on the game in his prime? And then Seve in Europe and him making the Ryder Cup what it is today?

Impact on the game goes only so far. Tiger has definitely had the greatest impact on the game we've ever known, especially as we now live in the age of 24hr media and his every move (on and off the golf course) is news worthy.

But with regard to his game he's still second in the lists that count.
 
So what about Palmer and the impact he had on the game in his prime? And then Seve in Europe and him making the Ryder Cup what it is today?

Impact on the game goes only so far. Tiger has definitely had the greatest impact on the game we've ever known, especially as we now live in the age of 24hr media and his every move (on and off the golf course) is news worthy.

But with regard to his game he's still second in the lists that count.
What about them Tiger had a bigger impact imo...

Still the Goat imo to...
 
What about them Tiger had a bigger impact imo...

Still the Goat imo to...

Yes he's had the greatest impact, especially in this era.

But every generation has their 'greatest'. The only way you can measure that is in major/tour wins, and Tiger is lacking in both of those.

Tiger is the greatest in yours and others opinion. But in mine he isnt.

And let's face it in 20 or 30 years time, the next generation will have their own 'greatest' and unless he reaches actually gets to the top of the lists that matter, that generation could well say 'Tiger who?'

Whenever Tiger plays, all the commentators ever ask is whether Tiger will reach or break Jack's major record. So that just shows what the benchmark is.
 
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