SGC001
Challenge Tour Pro
The term push-draw would be a ball that starts right of your toe line with draw spin, likewise a push-fade would start right of your toe line with cut spin. Anything that is defined as pull would start left of your toe line however this shot is a BIG NO NO in terms of impact (especially with an iron) as it requires an almost zero angle of attack else you'll be trying to hit it after the divot
In your example above of aiming right and hitting the pull-draw (more often a pull-hook) it is a pull as the ball never gets to the right side of your toe line. When people refer to this as a draw they are not defining it properly.. when they post "I close my stance and hit a nice draw" they are in fact hitting a pull-draw across themselves which is not the same. It goes low and left, often hooks and is very often fatted
Ok so if I understand it correctly they're basically defined in terms of where you're aiming as opposed to the target itself.
I'm not sure I'd say one group isn't defining it properly, rather it's been defined differently.
I can see advantages in both ways, in 1 way you are already describing where the ball finished in relation to the target (and golf is a target game) and how it curved there (although a push draw or pull hook may be more descriptive). The other way would need an addition of where it finished to maybe make it more complete, for arguments (not wanting one) sake he's hit a push draw left of target because he wasn't aimed correctly at set up), however a push draw and / or pull hook may tell you more than he drew it there.
JustOne do you know when these terms came about and if they are american terms or d plane stuff? i ask as I'd be interested in how they came to be. Is it an anglo-american difference or new terms to fit in with the current ball flight laws and understanding thereof?
On the pull draw across themselves are we talking the same thing? Assuming you normal shot is a straight shot, aim right swing normal (out to square to in) which is in to out as far as the ball is concerned because you've aimed right and have a clubface closed to that swing line, but open to the target the ball will start left of your aim (right of target) and curve back to target; but where have you pulled it across yourself as in relation to your swing path as you've just swung along your normal one? I've said it before somewhere mechanically it's a very simple way of curving the ball left. You adjusts your aim at set set up and the clubface at set up and swing as normal. Of course their are many ways of achieving this shape and this pull hook would have a lower flight and not necessarily be desirable in every situation.
