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Like NATO the UN is now yesterdays news......it never really worked in the first place.
There is now a new world order USA/China/India/Europe/Russia/Turkey and Central Africa.
It is all about population and power.

Can you explain how NATO has never really worked ?! Or even the UN - you I’m guessing have never had any involvement in anything in regards both organisations.

And can you explain how an European Army would work any different
 

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Can you explain how NATO has never really worked ?! Or even the UN - you I’m guessing have never had any involvement in anything in regards both organisations.

And can you explain how an European Army would work any different

To be fair and balanced. The UN failed miserably in the former Yugoslavia and are not doing to well in Africa, but its due manly to the quality of its military assists but they can only work with the countries that volunteer to assist.
 

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Can you explain how NATO has never really worked ?! Or even the UN - you I’m guessing have never had any involvement in anything in regards both organisations.

And can you explain how an European Army would work any different

A European army would work similar to the Allies did in WW2. Many nations working for the common good.
NATO was/is the USA's puppet.
UN had to respond to many stakeholders.
 

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A European army would work similar to the Allies did in WW2. Many nations working for the common good.
NATO was/is the USA's puppet.
UN had to respond to many stakeholders.

You obviously have no idea how it works. What would happen when a member state of the force didn't agree to a deployment and withdrew its manpower and assets.

Where are the extra troops and equipment going to come from.
 

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Trump Unhinged

Well The Sun interview and his various words yesterday - as one US commentator called it - 'Trump Unhinged'

And one of the funniest - but possibly more disturbing - lack of understanding was his thinking on England

"You don't hear the word 'England' as much as you should. I miss the name England," he said.
"I think England is a beautiful name. And you don't hear it very much anymore. But (the football team at the World Cup is) playing as 'England.' That's very interesting. That's good,"


Of course this thinking goes to explaining why - in his post NATO speech - Trump talked of the United Kingdom, Scotland and Ireland (he has property in Scotland and Ireland - did you know that - well you weren't listening :) )

His interview by the Sun is unbelievable - just rammed full of blatant and evidenced lies; comments on UK immigration that are verging on racist; unacceptable and hugely misinformed criticism of the London Mayor; and damaging and inappropriate comments undermining Theresa May....

Except it would be unbelievable were it not Trump.

And yet - yet - still some will say he is the bees knees. They will accept being lied to...
 

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Well an Osprey and at least 2 other choppers have just passed a few miles from me - probably passing over Staines. Diversions?

Btw. My understanding was that there were 3 potential AF1s and a bit of a 'Three Shell Scam' exercise was carried out on take-off. Or have I been reading too many Andy McNab books!
 

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Re: Trump Unhinged

It looks like this section of the forum has become your own personal soap box.
Do we really need another Trump/political thread?

Why don't you join a political forum and chat there and keep this forum for golf talk?
 

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Re: Trump Unhinged

It looks like this section of the forum has become your own personal soap box.
Do we really need another Trump/political thread?

Why don't you join a political forum and chat there and keep this forum for golf talk?

Because this is an Out of Bounds board specifically for discussions such as this. And when our 'most special relationship' is with a blatant and disrespectful liar whose best buddy is a despot who would see the UK, Europe and NATO in chaos - then I think we should discuss him and the implications for the UK - especially a UK out of the EU.

Why do you have an issue with that? Please don't tell me that you are a Trump admirer...or that you actually don't care about what he says and does...
 

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Re: Trump Unhinged

It looks like this section of the forum has become your own personal soap box.
Do we really need another Trump/political thread?

Why don't you join a political forum and chat there and keep this forum for golf talk?

This particular part of the forum isn't for golf talk!

I enjoy these threads.
 

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Funny really. I doubt any former US President’s visit to the UK ever attracted as much interest. It all probably feeds his ego.
 
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