Trump and NATO

[IanM]

Why is a Head of State putting his country first considered so outrageous?


Maybe it's so long since we didnt have a EU Federalist in charge, we've forgotten what it looks like!

 

[Old Skier]

Wouldn't if it weren't for the fact that a trade deal with the US is high on the list of 'must haves once left'. What does Trump really care about the UK...he's sounding more unhinged as the days go on.

And there was me thinking it was about NATO and Trump which it never was was it. It was more to do with your insistent posting against everything that you personally disagree with.

 

[shortgame]

note that Trump does not want a level playing field in trade - he wants things to be to the benefit of the USA above and beyond any other consideration

Imagine that. The leader of a country putting his country first.

Facepalm 🤦🏻*♂

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Trump demonstrates the extent of his class and being most presidential

When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!

And two days later Trump demonstrates his intelligence and economic savvy

Our Country was built on Tariffs, and Tariffs are now leading us to great new Trade Deals - as opposed to the horrible and unfair Trade Deals that I inherited as your President. Other Countries should not be allowed to come in and steal the wealth of our great U.S.A. No longer!

John Brennan had his security clearance removed immediately after he tweeted in response to Trump's 'dog' tweet

It’s astounding how often you fail to live up to minimum standards of decency, civility, & probity. Seems like you will never understand what it means to be president, nor what it takes to be a good, decent, & honest person. So disheartening, so dangerous for our Nation.

Oh dear. As more than one commentator has observed in tweet/print to Trump 'you're an embarrassment to the nation'

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Manafort found guilt on 8 out of 18 counts and Cohen pleading guilty and pointing finger at Trump. Problem is - Trump has spun the Fake News / Media Enemy of the People line so much that even straight reporting of these facts might well simply be dismissed by Trump and his acolytes as Fake News. After all it is not that long ago that Trump told a gathering of veterans...

"Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening. Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news."

Still - trouble may be heading Trump's way.

 

[gmc40]

Still - trouble may be heading Trump's way.

I think that’s a given following Cohen’s admissions. He has directly implicated Trump and stated he was following his instructions. There are also claims from his lawyer that more dirt is about to be dished as well. Interesting times ahead!

 

[Hobbit]

I think that’s a given following Cohen’s admissions. He has directly implicated Trump and stated he was following his instructions. There are also claims from his lawyer that more dirt is about to be dished as well. Interesting times ahead!

He’s dodged more bullets than Wild Bill. It’ll take impeachment or a Nixon-style resignation before he admits defeat.

 

[gmc40]

He’s dodged more bullets than Wild Bill. It’ll take impeachment or a Nixon-style resignation before he admits defeat.

Don't disagree with that. I suspect he'll be forced out rather than walking. Wouldn't surprise me if he tried to get rid of Mueller prior to that. Dunno if that's possible though?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Don't disagree with that. I suspect he'll be forced out rather than walking. Wouldn't surprise me if he tried to get rid of Mueller prior to that. Dunno if that's possible though?

Trump has already suggested that he could take over from Mueller in leading the Election Interference Investigations.

 

[Hobbit]

It will have to be obviously toxic for him to be impeached, and even then it will probably mean the loss of Congress and the Senate in November before he will be forced out.

 

[Tashyboy]

So let me get this right, he marries Ivana in 2005 and sleeps with a porn star in 2006. For that reason alone Trump has gone right down in my estimation, and I did like how he looked after USA. Rumored him and his wife are sleeping in seperate beds, Suprised it's not seperate countries.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Melania, Tashy. Ivana was wife no 1. I suspect Melania is sitting quietly, seething, and waiting for the moment he is longer President. At that point her lawyer will emerge and announce she is taking Donald for some serious money.

Saying all of that, she knew the billionaire that she was marrying, she knew what she was taking on. I'm struggling for sympathy, even though the situation is quite horrible.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Melania, Tashy. Ivana was wife no 1. I suspect Melania is sitting quietly, seething, and waiting for the moment he is longer President. At that point her lawyer will emerge and announce she is taking Donald for some serious money.

Saying all of that, she knew the billionaire that she was marrying, she knew what she was taking on. I'm struggling for sympathy, even though the situation is quite horrible.

Did you hear MT's 4 minute speech couple of days back on cyber bullying - how it is unacceptable and that those doing it must be exposed etc. The jury is out whether she was saying this as a not very disguised but very barbed swipe at her husband - or whether she was choosing to speak as if oblivious to his tweeting. And so later same day he continued in his usual obnoxious cyber-bullying way. Bizarre state of affairs and a quite shocking way for a PotUS to speak and act.

Let's see how Congress now acts given that the GOP representatives in Congress know that many, if not most, of Trump's core supporters (35% of the US electorate) think as all lies what they hear and see about the alleged crimes and actual misdemeanours of Trump - their President.

Unreal.

Though I understand that even if Trump survives this and a possible second term as PotUS - many of his alleged crimes, for which evidence is mounting, can be prosecuted once he leaves office.

 

[USER1999]

And this is all about NATO because?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And this is all about NATO because?

Because mods decided that we were not allowed to open up more than one thread about Trump and this was the first opened.

 

[Foxholer]

Re: Trump

Trump has already suggested that he could take over from Mueller in leading the Election Interference Investigations.

:rofl: :rofl:

Scarily, that doesn't surprise me! But i hope it's 'Fake News'!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Re: Trump

:rofl: :rofl:

Scarily, that doesn't surprise me! But i hope it's 'Fake News'!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/2...robe-mtvs-vmas-turn-into-trump-bash-fest.html

Best to use Fox on this as they couldn't ever be accused by Trump of spreading Fake News

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Trump - on first being asked to comment on the passing of Sen John McCain. On the one hand petulant and childish - on the other - arrogant and nasty. What a guy. What a President.

But it would appear that the walls are closing in on our dear Mr Trump - though it might not be Russia wot could do for him - but women and his lies, lies, lies.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Looking forward to Trump's tweets in response to what Bob Woodward has written in his book out today. It would be funny were Trump not PotUS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b9bc1958c614

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Bob Woodward's book. Hilarious if it wasn't so serious. White House Administration team apparently having to keep stuff away from Trump as they are so worried about how he is so able to misunderstand things; get things wrong, and totally screw up.