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Are they still missing a hole tho?Will be a par five from the 10th tee Nick.
Are they still missing a hole tho?Will be a par five from the 10th tee Nick.
There are a lot of changes planned, so pretty sure they will end up with 18 holes.Are they still missing a hole tho?
Last year, a Mariner hit it over the clubhouse into the car park. Not me as I can’t hit it that far. It was the old boy that out drove you at Cowdray Park.I don’t like the 18th either.....those office windows are awfully close to the back of the green 🤣🤣
Lucky bounce 😉😉🤣🤣Last year, a Mariner hit it over the clubhouse into the car park. Not me as I can’t hit it that far. It was the old boy that out drove you at Cowdray Park.
Will be a par five from the 10th tee Nick.
I’m not a great fan of Camberley- it has some very good holes but a lot of not so good ones so I would put it at the bottom of those four , next would be Worplesdon but i need to play it again as it was an early season round - the greens weren’t great but the layout was nice. Liphook would be second - greens are stunning and a lot of the holes are just superb but the first is poor and the 15th is really poor plus not a fan of that path just before the 2nd green. Then my fav is West Hill just really enjoy it there even if it has a few holes that aren’t great
So I think West Hill , Liphook and Worplesdon are very close and its just down to a personal fave and then Camberley a fair distance below imo
I’m not a great fan of Camberley- it has some very good holes but a lot of not so good ones so I would put it at the bottom of those four , next would be Worplesdon but i need to play it again as it was an early season round - the greens weren’t great but the layout was nice. Liphook would be second - greens are stunning and a lot of the holes are just superb but the first is poor and the 15th is really poor plus not a fan of that path just before the 2nd green. Then my fav is West Hill just really enjoy it there even if it has a few holes that aren’t great
So I think West Hill , Liphook and Worplesdon are very close and its just down to a personal fave and then Camberley a fair distance below imo
Love broadstone, but you don’t get stupid holes like the 7th on the top top courses
I was really mainly talking about courses I have played a number of times each year that you had above Woodhall
I don’t see any of those three courses having 15 “brilliant†holes
They prob have 3/4 outstanding holes , 10 very good holes and then a few weak holes. They do have your undulating holes and elevation that you like - Camberley for me has some shocking poor holes - 16 , 18 two perfect examples
But I’ll add my thoughts on the others that I have played you mentioned
Alwoodley - really enjoyed it but a few holes I didn’t enjoy and but overall a superb course
Berkshire Blue - another superb course but I think the Red is better and is close to Hotchkin- very close
Hankley - again outstanding but two holes which imo just make it below Hotchkin - 4 and 18 - the holes further out are just stunning
Worplesdon - just below West Hill imo
Not played Broadstone , West Sussex
So my top 5 would be
Sunningdale Old
Sunningdale New
Swinley Forest
Hotchkin
Hankley Common
The Berkshire Red , Blue then Alwoodley
But West Hill is one of my favourites
You've read what I said wrong - I never said that them courses had 15 brilliant holes. I said give me A course that has 15 brilliant holes and a few weak ones over one that has 18 good holes.
I think people concentrate too much on the odd weak hole rather than the whole package at courses. Fair enough, if a course has a terrible or badly designed hole call it out, but dont lose sight of the "whole" experience. Whole above hole, for me.
Its a shame we cant get a great forum deal at St. Georges Hill, as I think that would definitely see many chose it above the Hotchkin also.
Berkshire blue is a good course, but I felt that the final four holes were a bit samey - high tee to a valley fairway and a raised green with 3 of the 4 yardages being similar. Havent played the red yet.
You see for me weak holes do take a mark of the whole package because sometimes if the hole is that weak it’s something you don’t forget - Liphook and Camberley both have them
St George’s Hill is superb and I completely forgot about
If I look at my choices then i have three clearly ahead of the others - Sunningdale Old and New plus Swinley - i won’t IMO play a course that would replace those
Now below them the difference between all the course is very minimal beyond prob the one that sticks out is prob the last one I played
I could prob put - Hankley , Berkshire Red , Hotchkin and St George’s Hill levelish on points if I was doing a scoring system - they are all stunning courses with each having their own characteristics and there is no doubt people will have them in different order of favs.
But courses like Camberley , Liphook , West Hill and Worplesdon just aren’t in that level of course IMO nice courses in their own right but I don’t think the ratings lie about them
Well there is a some pairs Opens next year ðŸ‘Fair assessment. I'm going to enjoy going back to Woodhall, especially after the changes.
Will go with an open mind.
You see for me weak holes do take a mark of the whole package because sometimes if the hole is that weak it’s something you don’t forget - Liphook and Camberley both have them
St George’s Hill is superb and I completely forgot about
If I look at my choices then i have three clearly ahead of the others - Sunningdale Old and New plus Swinley - i won’t IMO play a course that would replace those
Now below them the difference between all the course is very minimal beyond prob the one that sticks out is prob the last one I played
I could prob put - Hankley , Berkshire Red , Hotchkin and St George’s Hill levelish on points if I was doing a scoring system - they are all stunning courses with each having their own characteristics and there is no doubt people will have them in different order of favs.
But courses like Camberley , Liphook , West Hill and Worplesdon just aren’t in that level of course IMO nice courses in their own right but I don’t think the ratings lie about them
I think the lists are fairly accurate on top heathlands. For me
1. Sunningdale New is top, followed closely by a split with
2. Sunningdale Old, Swinley, Hankley, Woodhall, St George's Hill. Next close group:
3: West Hill, Liphook, Hindhead, Woking, Worplesdon, Broadstone, Ferndown, Parkstone, Wentworth East
4. Beau Desert (only played once and loved it so maybe could go up the group above), Blackmoor, Camberley, Ladybank, North Hants
How do you classify courses like Wentworth West - clearly was heathland but has lost a good deal of that feel.
Parkland. Sadly.How do you classify courses like Wentworth West