Well there you go, and I thought it was Exhibition contractors that built the stage sets.... I didn't realise they had to build them themselves.... everydays a school day :rofl:
Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?
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Well there you go, and I thought it was Exhibition contractors that built the stage sets.... I didn't realise they had to build them themselves.... everydays a school day :rofl:
Crazyface
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And a rousing cheer from Labours conference. If that is the opposition TM has nowt to fear.
As long as Labour have her in their front benches, I could be the Tory PM! LMAO
Doon frae Troon
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Really.........A big boy done it then ran away
Try telling that story to your boss next time you make a Horlicks of a plan.
Bottom line is they were responsible for staging the event from top to bottom. [inc security BTW]
Junior
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The irony of Yanis is brilliant. Greece , the country that falsified data and their financial statements to get into the EU and then borrowed ridiculous amounts money at stupidly low interest rates from EU banks. Then when the time came to pay it back decided that they couldn't and wouldn't. Cue Germany, France and the UK having to bail them out......
ColchesterFC
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Really.........A big boy done it then ran away
Try telling that story to your boss next time you make a Horlicks of a plan.
Bottom line is they were responsible for staging the event from top to bottom. [inc security BTW]
And if it had been reported that Theresa May had been overseeing the contractors putting the signs up and building the stage you would have criticised her for that instead of her focusing on more important things. We all know that no matter what she (or the Tories) do, you will display your usual anti-English, anti-Tory, anti-Westminster bias to find fault with it.
CheltenhamHacker
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Any reason Abbott gets so much more stick than most other politicians for errors? I find it a bit weird how if people want to deflect from the Conservatives, it's quite often a pop at her.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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This is of course be apocryphal - but my understanding was that - prior to the 2008 crash - Greece had proportionately the highest ownership level of BMWs in Europe. Mind you many of them might have been wrecks - but I think it was a bit more than that. Though probably nothing to do with Theresa May
Still not sure why her protection unit didn't level the clown with the letter? Can you imagine that happening to Donald?
Symbolism is massive in politics and yesterday was not a good day for the PM.
With regards to Dianne Abbott, she is simply awful. She has a history of being awful and inept. Attacking her is like shooting fish in a barrel, every comment will hit home and so if you need to deflect then she is the go to lady. It is a bit like a football manager blaming the ref after a defeat.
Symbolism is massive in politics and yesterday was not a good day for the PM.
With regards to Dianne Abbott, she is simply awful. She has a history of being awful and inept. Attacking her is like shooting fish in a barrel, every comment will hit home and so if you need to deflect then she is the go to lady. It is a bit like a football manager blaming the ref after a defeat.
Junior
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Regrettably, it's not fictitious. A report commissioned by the EU shortly after condemned Greece for overstating the surplus of its reserves by about 3 billion Euro. George Papandreou even acknowledged that the corruption of certain statistical bodies was a national disease.
Anyway, apologies for diverting from the subject of the thread.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Yup - I agree - Tories deflecting concerns or difficult questions by pointing at Abbott is a waste of time as it signifies little. She is but one person who may or may not have a part to play in some future Labour Government. The questions the Tories face are real as they are the party IN government - or so we are led to believe. When during may's speech yesterday the camera looked at the row of ministers sat there - you might well have thought - blimey - is that it - the Cabinet front bench - and there behind them grinning was Leadsom,
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Not sure what a usual number would be but apprently less than 100 Tory MPs in attendance for May's speech yesterday of over 300. Can't imagine that back in Maggie's day.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Apparently that's the way of things - the Leader's Speech is a rallying call for the ground troops - and many MPs don't see the need to be 'rallied' and prefer to do their own thing at fringe meetings - or in the pub...
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She is definitely a gonner now, Gove just gave her his full support.
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Oh, how I laughed.
Doon frae Troon
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If those down south think Davidson is the answer http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/...lay=AllChanged®orseat=(none)&boundary=2017, take a shifty at the latest polls
SwingsitlikeHogan
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May - lots of aspiration and objectives - not hearing much in the way of solutions being offered to the EU - especially in respect of NI/EU border. And simply telling the EU that the ball is in their court - when they simply say that's in ours - well what good is that going to do. Stalemate. If she's happy with that state of affairs then fine.
Farage would have May pick up the ball and smash it straight at the EU - but that's not really going to help. Not unless No Deal is real and not a threat - and the EU are not going to believe it's real until they see us actually preparing for No Deal - and not just talking about it.
Best start preparing - cliff edge approaching. Let's hope the drop isn't too far; there are no rocks; and the tide is in.
Farage would have May pick up the ball and smash it straight at the EU - but that's not really going to help. Not unless No Deal is real and not a threat - and the EU are not going to believe it's real until they see us actually preparing for No Deal - and not just talking about it.
Best start preparing - cliff edge approaching. Let's hope the drop isn't too far; there are no rocks; and the tide is in.
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To be fair on this the UK have put forward a number of proposals which the EU are simply saying No to. Now there has to come a point where you say to the EU, "okay you don't like our suggestions, what do you have?" It is actually very easy to keep saying No but if they want to move this forward then they have to come up with something as well. As much as we are leaving, they want something from us leaving so it is not all about the UK.
I think the recent dropping in of the fact that the govt and civil service are preparing for a no deal situation is very calculated. We need the EU to understand that if they are trying to bluff us on this then we will meet their bluff. Business interests in the EU do not want us to leave with no deal so there will come a point when someone will be tapping on the shoulder of the EU negotiators and say, "times up, now you make a deal". That will only happen if we stand firm.
Bear in mind, I voted remain but if we are leaving we have to do it in a way that doesn't get us stuffed.
I think the recent dropping in of the fact that the govt and civil service are preparing for a no deal situation is very calculated. We need the EU to understand that if they are trying to bluff us on this then we will meet their bluff. Business interests in the EU do not want us to leave with no deal so there will come a point when someone will be tapping on the shoulder of the EU negotiators and say, "times up, now you make a deal". That will only happen if we stand firm.
Bear in mind, I voted remain but if we are leaving we have to do it in a way that doesn't get us stuffed.
ColchesterFC
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Make your mind up SiLH. In the Article 50 thread you posted that May had said that she had started the planning for leaving with no deal - and complaining that she hadn't explained to you in detail what that entailed. Now on this thread you're complaining that the EU won't believe that no deal is real unless we start preparing for it. Didn't Del C get blackballed for posting the same thing over and over again? Aren't you doing the same with your "cliff edge", "tide in", "no rocks" posts?
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