Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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Quite possibly. Or.......we're going to build our own championship standard course that will be the envy of the world and those that are still chomping it round our old course will be looking enviously over the fence at our new club that has no membership fees, a sparkling new club house, immaculate fairways and perfect greens. :thup:

And we'll spend the years playing with ourselves, denying outsiders the chance of a game and watching the wider world of golf go from strength to strength while we dwindle into an anachronistic relic of a time long gone....


It's fun this! :rofl:
 

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And we'll spend the years playing with ourselves, denying outsiders the chance of a game and watching the wider world of golf go from strength to strength while we dwindle into an anachronistic relic of a time long gone....


It's fun this! :rofl:

RE: the bit in bold - It's a bit harsh to suggest that those who voted leave are all......... (infraction avoided by ending that sentence there) :)

Or we'll be inviting those from around the world to form new ties with our club and be offering associate memberships with reciprocal agreements to many other world countries rather than just the other 27 countries that are on our favourites list.

I agree this is a good game. :thup:
 

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You embrace her if you want to but there's something of the night about her. I get the feeling that you might have two puncture wounds in your neck and a lack of blood in your body if you do. Much better to take the Boris Johnson position of standing right behind her giving her a pat on the back. It's far easier to stab her in the back from there.
 

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It just never felt like a level playing field, it was a Germany and France club and they could ignore any rules the wanted but we weren't allowed to.

Actually the UK, Germany and France virtually ran the EU, or at least you needed their agreement for any major policies to happen. We had plenty of dispensations and opt outs that if any other country had, we would be spitting feathers and claiming it is so unfair.
 

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You embrace her if you want to but there's something of the night about her. I get the feeling that you might have two puncture wounds in your neck and a lack of blood in your body if you do. Much better to take the Boris Johnson position of standing right behind her giving her a pat on the back. It's far easier to stab her in the back from there.

I'd take her over MaggieT any day of the week...

Having said that if Mrs T was in charge now... Barnier, Juncker et al would be queuing up to kiss her butt cheeks rather than the other way round..
 

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I thought in the circumstances she has managed to get herself into, the speech wasn't too bad. Just about 18 months too late. I see it upset Farage which by default in my book is a good thing.

If she had made this at the start of the process, kissed the EUs ass a bit as that is what they like then I feel we would be much further on in our negotiations. Instead, to pander to the hardcore brexiters we tried the hard man approach, no compromise option and consequently we have not got very far.

So she is trying to make the most of an almost impossible situation as in addition to negotiating the best deal with the EU, she is having to play petty politics within the Tory party to stop the vultures circling. We will probably end up with a compromise that will in all truth please no one. Too soft for the hard brexiters, too much work and money spent to effectively get a poorer version of what we already had for the remainers.
 
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Not going to comment on the content of the speech as that is for the Art50 thread when it is reopened - but I thought her general tone and demeanour when giving it were not great - and actually rather uncomfortably ingratiating towards the EU at times. I just think that just can't deliver a speech with real conviction - she just doesn't sound authentic - as if she's having to act the role of PM. And for me it just doesn't work - and I just can't see any senior EU politician or negotiator being in the slightest bit convinced when she puts on the 'tough speaking' growl.

I am not sure who she felt she was speaking to yesterday - was it actually Hammond, Davis and Johnson ion the front row? Were they lapping it up? I didn't actually see too many happy chappy smiles? Was she laying down the law?

And Dave Davis is not really any more convincing; he may speak well but it is always too genial, jovial uncle David for me - as if he feels he has to play the friendly face of the UK - with May somehow supposed to be the 'tough face'.

And there was me having relatively decent hopes for her back in the day when she became PM - though maybe it was just for the day.
 

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It's the internet, nothing is real and no state of affairs are sad.

It was unfortunate that mods decided to close the other thread on the day that major speeches were given
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To be fair to the mods it had degenerated into the same points being made over and over again and people desperately trying to find ways to be offended to satisfy personal vendettas by resorting to pedantry.

Did you call me stupid??
No
What did you call me?
Nothing?
Did you imply I am stupid??
No
What did say?
I said Codpiece face
What did you say??
I said Codpiece face.......

It was at the level that if I would have seen it on my 11 year olds whatsapp thread I would have told her to grow up.
 
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Mine neither - not in my name Theresa May. I'll let Brexiteers critique her performance in detail - I just didn't think it was the barnstorming statement of principles that many Brexiteers were hoping for. And not heard too many plaudits heading her way other than from couple of sycophantic Tory MPs toeing her line. But I will not comment more.

That was a fail then
 
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