Most launch areas are tracked by satellite. Also, by creating tropospheric scatter radar can be used to view over the horizon. Then there's the maths element of reverse engineering the track. Don't worry, plenty of people will know who killed us.
Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?
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Most launch areas are tracked by satellite. Also, by creating tropospheric scatter radar can be used to view over the horizon. Then there's the maths element of reverse engineering the track. Don't worry, plenty of people will know who killed us.
Old Skier
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Any rocket not just nuclear are seen as soon as they are launched. Those satellites in space aren't just there for your sat nav and golf gizzmos. Most people with a modicum of intelligence know that.
Doon frae Troon
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Goodness me, has Spitting Image returned.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/rude-theresa-may-structure-erected-126737/
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/rude-theresa-may-structure-erected-126737/
Doon frae Troon
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So our nuclear subs are useless............basically big suicide bombs.
Not sure what you mean...
If you mean their position is always known by an enemy... no. Subs can hide from surface detection by staying below the isothermic barrier. Or is it that you feel their position will be known immediately they launch? Only if the satellite is aimed in that general area.
Old Skier
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Bit different being permanently positioned over a land mass than covering the oceans of the world. Do catch up Pike.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Plenty out there in the public domain about Brilliant Eyes
Doon frae Troon
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I do not understand what you mean by 'only if the missile is aimed in that general direction'.
The example of a Russian sub launching a missile on the UK from close to the North Korean coast springs to mind.
Can the Russian subs missiles travel that far?
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User62651
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May set to be seen squirming a little in tonights ITV interview wrt stat that of 350 returning jihadis to UK from Syria in the last 2 years, only 1 temporary exclusion order has issued. This on top of that rather smug old footage being played of her as HS telling the police conference to not 'cry wolf' over personnel numbers required is showing her up in bad light at the worst time when people are struggling with terror attacks and so close to polling day. She can't blame Corbyn for that or for exploiting it politically.
Whole election was supposed to be about Brexit for May, seems there hasn't been that much talk of Brexit at all during this campaign, particularly latterly given tragic events. It's right however that opposition parties and media have made the focus about all the issues and not just Brexit, it is a GE not a Brexit vote after all, and have not allowed May a coronation at least, before she almost certainly wins Thursday.
I dont think she or her team could have imagined a worse campaign.
41.5% Con v 40.4% Lab headline in the Evening Standard online today. Is this just bitter Osbourne spinning or is it really that close? Might be a scare tactic to get Tories out voting as well as a dig at May from GO.
Whatever happens Thursday her image and self billed reputation as strong and stable has been lessened significantly imo from where she was a couple of months ago.
A catalog of misjudgements including calling this GE doesn't inspire confidence in her as leader moving forward. Her decision making ability is in serious question.
Will give her a chance nonetheless to prove herself should she win handsomely Thursday for the good of the country, if she doesn't win handsomely her goose might be cooked anyway.
If it comes to that wonder if she'll fall on her sword a la DaveC or dig in and wait to get pushed like MaggieT.
Whole election was supposed to be about Brexit for May, seems there hasn't been that much talk of Brexit at all during this campaign, particularly latterly given tragic events. It's right however that opposition parties and media have made the focus about all the issues and not just Brexit, it is a GE not a Brexit vote after all, and have not allowed May a coronation at least, before she almost certainly wins Thursday.
I dont think she or her team could have imagined a worse campaign.
41.5% Con v 40.4% Lab headline in the Evening Standard online today. Is this just bitter Osbourne spinning or is it really that close? Might be a scare tactic to get Tories out voting as well as a dig at May from GO.
Whatever happens Thursday her image and self billed reputation as strong and stable has been lessened significantly imo from where she was a couple of months ago.
A catalog of misjudgements including calling this GE doesn't inspire confidence in her as leader moving forward. Her decision making ability is in serious question.
Will give her a chance nonetheless to prove herself should she win handsomely Thursday for the good of the country, if she doesn't win handsomely her goose might be cooked anyway.
If it comes to that wonder if she'll fall on her sword a la DaveC or dig in and wait to get pushed like MaggieT.
Read the post again. If the satellite is aimed in that general direction it will see the launch. By calculating the launch characteristics, acceleration etc, the type of missile will be identified. Russia isn't selling subs or missiles with those capabilities to anyone.
Doon frae Troon
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Thanks sorry for miss read.
So am I correct in thinking that if the satellite is not pointed at a specific area we do not have a clue who is sending the missile from a sub.
I was giving the scenario of a Russian nuclear attack on UK camouflaged as a NK attack.
Areas of potential conflict will be under permanent surveillance. And as previously stated, there's enough time to track anything incoming to verify type etc. Don't forget, there's been the capability to track them since the late 50's/60's.
There's also the SONUS undersea detection system that's been in operation for a number of years. Subs, even deep submersed, need stealth protection now.
ger147
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No you are not correct.
Doon frae Troon
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http://www.thenational.scot/news/15...g_on_Police_Scotland___s_VAT_bill/?ref=twtrec
Mayhem thinks that VAT is devolved in Scotland.
Mayhem thinks that VAT is devolved in Scotland.
Doon frae Troon
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So am I right in thinking that the Trident subs are then just big suicide bombs.
Soon as they fire a missile they are sitting ducks.
CheltenhamHacker
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Oh dear god. The fact she went straight to "I support shoot to kill" is just another example of how she can't think on her feet. If anyone had even the slightest thought that she is the "great leader" to lead us through Brexit, please please look at what she is doing.http://www.thenational.scot/news/15...g_on_Police_Scotland___s_VAT_bill/?ref=twtrec
Mayhem thinks that VAT is devolved in Scotland.
As a Tory historically, who can't support May, is it too much to hope for that she resigns pretty quickly and we get someone vaguely competent in, when the Tories no doubt still win the GE?
ger147
Tour Winner
No, wrong again.
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User62651
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Cant they fire then dive deep, use stealth technology and hide?
Would the sub fire all its missiles in one go - if they are a sitting duck as suggested you'd think they would have to or else lose all the onboard nukes?
Would you fire a nuke at a nuclear sub or a specific anti sub missile/depth charge weapon?
Does a nuclear bomb even work underwater?
So many questions.
Hacker Khan
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I agree that TMay is poor, but then again that does not actually bother me as much as their policies do. It is pretty clear by now that she is a quite a poor communicator and mostly just regurgitates pre-prepared statements like she is reading a mental auto queue. But I've kind of got used to that by now and I'd much rather vote on the the basis of the manifesto and policies.
But who will replace her though? Who in the Tory party can instil a note of optimism for the future of Britain with that manifesto? Or are we just consigned to having very dull and uninspiring leaders who seem to want to pull the wool over the publics eyes by re-branding the lack of dynamism, lack of any inspiration, lack of any sign of hope as 'strong and stable'?
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Crazyface
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TM initially gave us a good impression,but as the campaign has gone on her refusal to debate show lack of belief in her own abilities, intellect and policies. She also has a weird gait, sure that shouldn't matter, but it does. Thing is Corbyn has Abbott on his side and anyone who votes for Labour knowing that Abbott will be at the forefront of everything wants their bumps felt. (I've put that as nice as possible, what I want to say will get me a slapped wrist). So for all our sakes think before you vote!!!!!!!!!
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