The SNIP

[Deleted member 16999]

I believe the reason Scots want Independence is because they think they've had a bum deal from Westminster. The bulk of industry in Scotland has gone (coal mining, ship building etc) because of several factors outwith Westminster's control. China and Korea rule the roost in those industries now because of cheap labour so we just could not produce competitively priced products.
Once the Scots realise this and stop blaming the English then they might start thinking about the best ways to regenerate their economy.

I wouldn’t for one minute tell someone in Scotland or any other Country how to live or vote.
I, personally, don’t want them to go independant, but if the majority want it or vote for it then good luck to them and they’ll have to live with that decision whether they sink or swim.

But, some English it seems are more interested in knocking them down and telling them what will or won’t happen.

I understand why some are upset over Brexit as Cameron quite categorically told them that by voting No for Independence meant staying in the EU, now you can’t simply dismiss that as, “oh well he lied” or “silly you for believing him” he was the PM at the time and with that office comes credibility, they then as a Nation voted to stay in the EU and we dismiss that as “unlucky, more voted to go”.
Can you honestly believe us Leavers wouldn’t have had a dig at Scotland if it had 51/49 to stay with their vote making the difference?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I believe the reason Scots want Independence is because they think they've had a bum deal from Westminster. The bulk of industry in Scotland has gone (coal mining, ship building etc) because of several factors outwith Westminster's control. China and Korea rule the roost in those industries now because of cheap labour so we just could not produce competitively priced products.
Once the Scots realise this and stop blaming the English then they might start thinking about the best ways to regenerate their economy.

37 car factories in England all receiving massive UK government subsidies and start up £££££s
None in Scotland
Equal partners in the UK...............I think not.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

37 car factories in England all receiving massive UK government subsidies and start up £££££s
None in Scotland
Equal partners in the UK...............I think not.

You really need to check your facts. The vast majority of those are old British marques that have been around for decades. There are only a handful of new plants since we joined the EU such as Honda and Nissan.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

37 car factories in England all receiving massive UK government subsidies and start up £££££s
None in Scotland
Equal partners in the UK...............I think not.

Of course all depends on the nature of the subsidies and where these factories are based! If they're all in England and not in Scotland then that's a business decision the car manufacturers have taken - not the fault of UK Government.

And there are a significant number of subsidy programmes that are devolved to the Scottish Government to manage and administer the funding and associated match funding.

Scotland receives more fisheries funding than England.

 

[KenL]

37 car factories in England all receiving massive UK government subsidies and start up £££££s
None in Scotland
Equal partners in the UK...............I think not.

We had one in Linwood, it was shut probably because the quality of what they produced was rubbish for huge cost.

 

[spongebob59]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1298869856104841216

 

[Doon frae Troon]

We had one in Linwood, it was shut probably because the quality of what they produced was rubbish for huge cost.

You never miss a chance to run down your country do you.
British Leyland....remember them.

BTW the SNP were hardly a thing when Linwood closed,, that was a SLab baddddddd.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You really need to check your facts. The vast majority of those are old British marques that have been around for decades. There are only a handful of new plants since we joined the EU such as Honda and Nissan.

Seriiously.........Rover, British Leyland etc cost a fortune to UK taxpayers in subsidies

 

[PNWokingham]

Seriiously.........Rover, British Leyland etc cost a fortune to UK taxpayers in subsidies

and the sorry state of British Leyland and the rest of the poor stuff produced in the 70s was caused mainly by militant union-driven practises holding the country to ransom - Maggie sorted that out!!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

and the sorry state of British Leyland and the rest of the poor stuff produced in the 70s was caused mainly by militant union-driven practises holding the country to ransom - Maggie sorted that out!!

Glad you agree with me on something for a change

 

[funkycoldmedina]

and the sorry state of British Leyland and the rest of the poor stuff produced in the 70s was caused mainly by militant union-driven practises holding the country to ransom - Maggie sorted that out!!

She may have sorted out the militant unions and poor manufacturing base but she didn't have the foresight to think they'd needed replacing hence the lamentable job situation in the North of England and Scotland. Areas that were once the workhorse of the UK are now the benefit and low skilled job centres.

 

[MegaSteve]

and the sorry state of British Leyland and the rest of the poor stuff produced in the 70s was caused mainly by militant union-driven practises holding the country to ransom - Maggie sorted that out!!

Sadly, but unsurprisingly, she left the real culprits of manufacturing failures untouched...

Snout in the trough management... I mean it's not been unknown for them to get gongs for failure...
As long as you know the right handshake all failings get forgiven...

 

[Sweep]

Tweeted by HM Treasury yesterday...

 

[Sweep]

We shall be welcomed with open arms, everyone in Europe loves the Scots.

England is in Europe.
Pity some Scots don’t return the favour.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1299031791362334725

Joanna pointing out to the UK justice minister that he does not have a clue.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

England is in Europe.
Pity some Scots don’t return the favour.

I would advise you not say those words too loudly in some areas of England.

 

[KenL]

She may have sorted out the militant unions and poor manufacturing base but she didn't have the foresight to think they'd needed replacing hence the lamentable job situation in the North of England and Scotland. Areas that were once the workhorse of the UK are now the benefit and low skilled job centres.

There are plenty jobs in Scotland.

 

[Sweep]

I would advise you not say those words too loudly in some areas of England.

Everyone knows England is in Europe. And just like Scotland, it’s not in the EU.

 

[KenL]

Just saying...

 

[Fade and Die]

Just saying...View attachment 32192

Looks good but the SNP benefit Junkies think they can get even more if they dip their hand into the EU pockets.