The Masters 2025

[Orikoru]

McIlroy IS British.

As am I, that is what it says on my passport anyway

It always confuses me so I Googled to check.

No, Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, although it is part of the United Kingdom. Great Britain refers to the island of Great Britain, which is composed of England, Scotland, and Wales. The United Kingdom, on the other hand, is the sovereign state that includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Just another reason I don't feel 'British' I guess. Don't even know what it means.

 

[Swango1980]

It always confuses me so I Googled to check.

No, Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, although it is part of the United Kingdom. Great Britain refers to the island of Great Britain, which is composed of England, Scotland, and Wales. The United Kingdom, on the other hand, is the sovereign state that includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Just another reason I don't feel 'British' I guess. Don't even know what it means.

I know what the island of Great Britain is. But, look up the definition of British and who it applies to.

Also, I recommend you never have this debate in Northern Ireland, could be very risky

 

[AmandaJR]

This is an interesting point. When I'm watching the RC, then yes, they are all part of the home team and I support them. The rest of the time I feel like all of Europe hates England anyway and I feel no connection to any of them.

Weirdly true!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Not saying there's a right or wrong answer here, but I always feel more English than British. Hence I've never considered McIlroy, or Andy Murray for example a 'home' player as such - I feel no national connection to them. McIlroy isn't even British, he's UK - so you would say you consider your nationality to be United Kingdomish if you feel a kinship with him? I don't know if it's a generational thing either.

Rory is British - that’s what his passport says

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You could argue where are they, and this applies to many , many sports, when it isn't a major sporting event. SO many events under funded and lacking any form of television or media exposire

I’m confused at what that has to do with supporting home players in a sporting event

 

[Arthur Wedge]

This is an interesting point. When I'm watching the RC, then yes, they are all part of the home team and I support them. The rest of the time I feel like all of Europe hates England anyway and I feel no connection to any of them.

Thats about seperating the sport from the politics

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I’m confused at what that has to do with supporting home players in a sporting event

Your not confused. Just obtuse. I'm not spelling it out

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I'm equally confused. Might not say Blighty mind. COME ON GB. Yep that's more like it. Is it allowed to shout COME ON EUROPE in The Ryder Cup or is that silly flag waving too? Just trying to figure out where the line is drawn in supporting one's nation. Maybe COME ON CITY is also silly flag waving? Who knows. It's adding to my insecurity wondering about it though...

Flags divide us all

Killing in the name of flags throughout history

Nations behind one flag better than another flag

Sport rivals under flags

Take Europe, one land mass divided by flags (united by a different flag)

Flags cause division

 

[Deleted member 21784]

McIlroy IS British.

As am I, that is what it says on my passport anyway

Surely you got an Irish passport as they are worth more than British ones

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Flags divide us all

Killing in the name of flags throughout history

Nations behind one flag better than another flag

Sport rivals under flags

Take Europe, one land mass divided by flags (united by a different flag)

Flags cause division

Flags don’t divide people

Attitudes do

The Olympics in 2012 was massive for the nation and provided a lot of goodwill

Sport is just sport at the end of the day

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Rory is British - that’s what his passport says

Have you seen his passport?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Flags don’t divide people

Attitudes do

The Olympics in 2012 was massive for the nation and provided a lot of goodwill

Sport is just sport at the end of the day

13 years ago though. Is that goodwill in the nation still there?

 

[Orikoru]

Rory is British - that’s what his passport says

Right, ok. You've side-stepped the question, but I guess in a roundabout way you're saying that you feel more British than English then? I think some, like me, who don't feel that way find the jingoism from English people a bit strange for the likes of McIlroy and Murray who aren't English, but British. We don't feel like that in football for example, since there is no 'British' team, they compete as separate nations, so no reason to feel attachment to a Scottish or Northern Irish player.

I know what the island of Great Britain is. But, look up the definition of British and who it applies to.

Also, I recommend you never have this debate in Northern Ireland, could be very risky

Fine, I mean, I'm not trying to take the mick and I certainly don't do politics, I just genuinely find that all confusing. You are not in Britain but you are British. It's a lot of faff and nonsense, and perhaps one of the reasons I think of myself as English - it's consistent, and simpler.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Have you seen his passport?

Or listened to when he said he had a British Passport

 

[AmandaJR]

Flags divide us all

Killing in the name of flags throughout history

Nations behind one flag better than another flag

Sport rivals under flags

Take Europe, one land mass divided by flags (united by a different flag)

Flags cause division

They can but they can also do the exact opposite. As Phil has said - it's more about the attitude of the person/people waving the flag.

 

[AmandaJR]

Right, ok. You've side-stepped the question, but I guess in a roundabout way you're saying that you feel more British than English then? I think some, like me, who don't feel that way find the jingoism from English people a bit strange for the likes of McIlroy and Murray who aren't English, but British. We don't feel like that in football for example, since there is no 'British' team, they compete as separate nations, so no reason to feel attachment to a Scottish or Northern Irish player.


Fine, I mean, I'm not trying to take the mick and I certainly don't do politics, I just genuinely find that all confusing. You are not in Britain but you are British. It's a lot of faff and nonsense, and perhaps one of the reasons I think of myself as English - it's consistent, and simpler.

I'm first and foremost English. I also identify as British It is all rather confusing though when I think about Andy and Rory vs say the Scottish or Irish footie teams.

Now you've got me even more insecure!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Flags don’t divide people

Attitudes do

The Olympics in 2012 was massive for the nation and provided a lot of goodwill

Sport is just sport at the end of the day

In your opinion.

 

[Slime]

Is there something wrong with people cheering on their home sports stars during major sporting events ?

Great avatar, Phil.

 

[Orikoru]

I'm first and foremost English. I also identify as British It is all rather confusing though when I think about Andy and Rory vs say the Scottish or Irish footie teams.

Now you've got me even more insecure!

This is probably why I've never got into the Olympics as well! They are playing for GB but I don't identify as British so I don't relate to it.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Flags, big fan of Cuba and Chile. Slight sidetrack but flags can be positive and cheery