evemccc
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You forgot to say it was better than your wedding day and the birth of your children as well…
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You forgot to say it was better than your wedding day and the birth of your children as well…
Arthur Wedge
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wjemather
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Golfer perhaps, but golf is a niche sport, so no chance.
Arthur Wedge
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#1 golfer - arguably although based on majors alone Nicklaus is the GOAT.
Best sportsman - maybe top 10 at a push
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Absolute nonsense, name a single sportsman let alone 10 who have been more important.
Pretty sure he was the highest earner at some point?
Arthur Wedge
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Muhammed Ali
Usain Bolt
Lionel Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo
Micheal Jordan
Micheal Phelps
Novak Djokovic
Serena Williams
Pin-seeker
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Golf wouldn’t be where it is without Woods imo.
He transformed the sport.
Football without messi & Ronaldo would be where it is.
Phelps,no one other than proper swimming fans care about swimming until the olympics.
Apart from the list LP has shown, if we are going back 50 years I'd add
Pele for another footballer with a global influence
Schumacher/Verstappen/Hamilton in F1 subject to your point of view
Neilds
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Impossible argument - but nothing new on here! You cannot compare different sports, different eras, etc to decide greatest.
Also, Jack Nicklaus and LIV has done more to change golf than Tiger did. Or any of the pioneers like Christine Langford who founded the WPGA. They changed the sport.
Also, Jack Nicklaus and LIV has done more to change golf than Tiger did. Or any of the pioneers like Christine Langford who founded the WPGA. They changed the sport.
wjemather
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I challenge you to find a published list (of which there are many) which has TW at the top (or even top 5).
Arthur Wedge
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When someone says that x person changed x sport most of the time the sport has just become richer
Nicklaus was superb as a golfer but he didn’t make it the worldwide appeal that Woods did
I’m no massive fan of Woods but he changed golf more than anyone else - he is the one that had the worldwide appeal with multiple different demographics
He was a black kid working hard to break down barriers in a rich white mans sport
He made the sport more accessible
Neilds
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Tiger has not changed golf, he has changed people's perception of the game (possibly) but, apart from TGL, he has not changed the game. No new innovations, no new event styles, the game of golf is still the same.
Pin-seeker
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Remember it’s just opinions & let’s be honest,no one’s going to change theirs.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I don't know. They literally made up a name for how he changed the sport.
Tiger proofing the course.
Arthur Wedge
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If looking at the way the game is played then he is prob the first that’s come along and brought fitness and strength into it , long drives and hours in the gym , many courses in majors and comps are extending because of the way they hit the ball now , even changing the ball to reduce the length , that all started with Woods
“Tiger proofing”
The Tour changed because of Woods , they were able to branch out and create 12 months tour golf because of his worldwide appeal
If you are just talking the basics of the game well that’s not changed since the 1800’s etc
But he changed the way the game was played
Orikoru
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Disagree about Nicklaus. He made the sport global in the 60's and 70's along with Palmer and Player
Slab
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What do you mean ‘made the sport global’ though? (the sport was already entrenched in a helluva lot of countries before these guys were born)
Geographical reach of their achievements I can understand with newsreels & newspaper coverage following round the world hours/days/weeks after they played, but I doubt that kind of coverage relates to the numbers of the population playing/following golf to anything remotely close to what modern day players do (& in particular what Woods reached)
