The Footie Thread

[nickjdavis]

I remember a time a player would do absolutely anything to ensure they didnt look like they were hurt, even though they may have been in agony. Good times.

Regarding a Visible Time Clock, if PL announced that it would be introduced next season, would anyone genuinely be against it? Wouldn't have thought any fans would hate it. And I'd imagine referees would like it, as they no longer have to subjectively end the game once they think an attack is over.

This is the worst thing...if time is up then surely time must be up? Why give a club extra minutes to knock the ball left, right, left seeking to work an opening....the clock is ticking....get the ball in the box.

I remember when Clive Thomas blew up at the end of a world cup match in '78 whilst a corner was in mid flight...the attacking team stuck the ball in the net but the goal was disallowed as the whistle had gone.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2028920661607899467

Well they are already doing the up and under so might as well get the rugby clock

 

[PaulMdj]

So now we want our inept Officials who show absolutely no consistencey from one game to the next to decide who is time wasting and who’s being genuine.
I can see that working well.

 

[Hobbit]

So now we want our inept Officials who show absolutely no consistencey from one game to the next to decide who is time wasting and who’s being genuine.
I can see that working well.

Wow! That’s a bit harsh. Who do you suggest instead?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

So now we want our inept Officials who show absolutely no consistencey from one game to the next to decide who is time wasting and who’s being genuine.
I can see that working well.

Is that not part of their job anyway to decide which player is time wasting or not

Hence why some players get booked for timewasting

 

[PaulMdj]

Wow! That’s a bit harsh. Who do you suggest instead?

Make the 4th Official do his job properly, the PGMOL need to step up and give clear direction to the Clubs exactly what will be added on for what reasons and then stick to it.

Then near the end of 90 minutes he signals how much is to be added, if the Clubs waste time in the added on time he signals again.

We want Referee’s getting decisions correct on the field, not be distracted by clock watching.

 

[PaulMdj]

Is that not part of their job anyway to decide which player is time wasting or not

Hence why some players get booked for timewasting

And the 4th Official adds time on, looks like we’ve sorted it then Phil, people must be imagining the problem.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Make the 4th Official do his job properly, the PGMOL need to step up and give clear direction to the Clubs exactly what will be added on for what reasons and then stick to it.

Then near the end of 90 minutes he signals how much is to be added, if the Clubs waste time in the added on time he signals again.

We want Referee’s getting decisions correct on the field, not be distracted by clock watching.

Please, watch a game of Rugby League, for Gawds sake.
The referee doesn’t watch a clock. He has nowt to do with when the game stops like you think.
The clock runs down, in accordance with the timekeeper , and when it gets to 80 mins a great big klaxon goes off.
The ref referees the match, I.e the players etc. He does not concern himself with the clock.

 

[AmandaJR]

Please, watch a game of Rugby League, for Gawds sake.
The referee doesn’t watch a clock. He has nowt to do with when the game stops like you think.
The clock runs down, in accordance with the timekeeper , and when it gets to 80 mins a great big klaxon goes off.
The ref referees the match, I.e the players etc. He does not concern himself with the clock.

Does he call "time off/on" as I think they do in Union?

 

[4LEX]

This is the worst thing...if time is up then surely time must be up? Why give a club extra minutes to knock the ball left, right, left seeking to work an opening....the clock is ticking....get the ball in the box.

I remember when Clive Thomas blew up at the end of a world cup match in '78 whilst a corner was in mid flight...the attacking team stuck the ball in the net but the goal was disallowed as the whistle had gone.

True story.

When I played youth football I rounded a keeper and slotted the ball into an empty net. The ref blew the whistle before the ball crossed the line Let's just say things kicked off on the touchline!

 

[Hobbit]

Make the 4th Official do his job properly, the PGMOL need to step up and give clear direction to the Clubs exactly what will be added on for what reasons and then stick to it.

Then near the end of 90 minutes he signals how much is to be added, if the Clubs waste time in the added on time he signals again.

We want Referee’s getting decisions correct on the field, not be distracted by clock watching.

Can’t remember which match it was in the last week but the ref/4th official, whoever, added time on the time added on because of time wasting. The ref signalled it on the field, and they went almost 2 minutes over the 6 mins added.

Refs will make mistakes, some high profile and costly, but they get most decisions right in pretty much every match. If only players were crucified to the same extent…

 

[PaulMdj]

Please, watch a game of Rugby League, for Gawds sake.
The referee doesn’t watch a clock. He has nowt to do with when the game stops like you think.
The clock runs down, in accordance with the timekeeper , and when it gets to 80 mins a great big klaxon goes off.
The ref referees the match, I.e the players etc. He does not concern himself with the clock.

I’ve watched Rugby League for over 40 years, including an Ashes Test Series in Australia!

You should try following a thread, my post you referenced was a reply to Hobbit about what I’d do. Others on here have suggested the Referee should decide when the clock is stopped.

Football already has a timekeeper, he’s called the 4th Official!

One other thing, the game isn’t finished when the klaxon goes off, it’s not the end of the game!

 

[Swango1980]

Never have I heard the simple concept of a visible clock countdown sound so complicated.

It is easy. It is basically exactly what happens now, but we all see the time left, instead of just the ref and what he can see on his wrist.

 

[PaulMdj]

Can’t remember which match it was in the last week but the ref/4th official, whoever, added time on the time added on because of time wasting. The ref signalled it on the field, and they went almost 2 minutes over the 6 mins added.

Refs will make mistakes, some high profile and costly, but they get most decisions right in pretty much every match. If only players were crucified to the same extent…

But reading this thread our Officials are useless.

They aren’t, they make mistakes like everyone else, just they get blamed for it. I just feel they are being let down by the powers that be.

Look how this thread has evolved today, it’s gone from Arsenal wasting time to Clubs needing a big clock.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

@Aztecs27 stories of Edu being asked to stay away from the ground. I can't imagine you'd be hostile to that. His arrival hasn't been positive, looking from the outside.

 

[Swango1980]

This is the worst thing...if time is up then surely time must be up? Why give a club extra minutes to knock the ball left, right, left seeking to work an opening....the clock is ticking....get the ball in the box.

I remember when Clive Thomas blew up at the end of a world cup match in '78 whilst a corner was in mid flight...the attacking team stuck the ball in the net but the goal was disallowed as the whistle had gone.

Indeed, and one of the problems with only the ref being able to see time. He blows whistle as a ball is flying towards the goal, or a player is running through to shoot or put in a dangerous cross, he will be called corrupt.

Also, infuriates me when players pass the ball about in middle of park with no urgency, and ref blows whistle. If they had known there was 10 seconds left, they could at least play direct and try and score, knowing there is no worry about a counter

 

[Arthur Wedge]

@Aztecs27 stories of Edu being asked to stay away from the ground. I can't imagine you'd be hostile to that. His arrival hasn't been positive, looking from the outside.

The man the owner brought in and caused the issues with Nuno ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Also, infuriates me when players pass the ball about in middle of park with no urgency, and ref blows whistle. If they had known there was 10 seconds left, they could at least play direct and try and score, knowing there is no worry about a counter

That's on the players, it really is. You ask the ref how long is left or gauge it from experience. The issue now is the obsession with possession, the fear of giving it away. Sometimes you have to take a risk

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The man the owner brought in and caused the issues with Nuno ?

Yup

 

[PaulMdj]

That's on the players, it really is. You ask the ref how long is left or gauge it from experience. The issue now is the obsession with possession, the fear of giving it away. Sometimes you have to take a risk

Except of course were a team could be ahead and seeing the clock they’ll keep possession and go backwards running down the time with the guess work taken out of it.