The Footie Thread

[Don Barzini]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769616284415910146

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The man truly is odious. Sure, he's all cuddly-wuddly, flashing his pearly whites and being gracious and humble when he wins or when things are otherwise going his way. The second he's unhappy though, the mask comes off, the true snake in the grass beneath is revealed and the toys get chucked out the pram as per this video. Great manager. Awful human being.

That tweet is correct - the main English media outlets won't make anything of this. It doesn't fit the vomit-inducing narrative they love to peddle about "Klopp's farewell tour" and that no-one cares about other than Liverpool fans.

 

[Swango1980]

I heard the Why is to keep sponsors happy… a player scores, the camera zooms in on him, sponsors logo front and centre, worldwide exposure. Only if he’s whirling it about his head the moment is lost.

I suspect that is an urban myth. I can't imagine companies like Team Viewer or Adidas would threaten to not invest in a football club if a player ever took off the shirt when celebrating, nor go running to the football authorities to demand they change the rules to order yellow cards if it ever happened. And, imagine the backlash on the football authorities if people ever found out the rules of the game were written specifically to make sponsors happen, rather than purely for the integrity of the game. They have enough criticism to deal with, rather than potential accusations of being bribed by sponsors

 

[PaulMdj]

From the rule book:
A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for:

• Climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues
• Acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way
• Covering the head or face with a mask or other similar item
• Removing the shirt or covering the head with the shirt

 

[Swango1980]

From the rule book:
A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for:

• Climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues
• Acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way
• Covering the head or face with a mask or other similar item
• Removing the shirt or covering the head with the shirt

That would have ended Ravenelli's career

 

[Swango1980]

Great example on Talksport today how pundits can over-exaggerate and potentially inflame the view of listeners, to the detriment of officials (or players / managers at times).

Stelling and Phil Thompson were discussing the second yellow card for Amad yesterday, and saying it was ridiculous getting yellow cards for that. This I agree with.

However, Phil Thompson went too far. He said that as soon as Amad took his shirt off, he could see the referees eyes light up, and could tell he was thinking this was a great chance to make a name for himself and send him off. What an atrocious thing for a paid pundit to say about an official, especially as some morons will believe him and think the ref should be abused for such thinking. Clearly, the ref had 100% no choice but to send him off, and I'd imagine he probably felt uncomfortable having to do so in such circumstances. But, had he not sent him off, then what a dangerous bar that would set off in the future, for referees using subjectivity in booking players or not for the same offence.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Great example on Talksport today how pundits can over-exaggerate and potentially inflame the view of listeners, to the detriment of officials (or players / managers at times).

Stelling and Phil Thompson were discussing the second yellow card for Amad yesterday, and saying it was ridiculous getting yellow cards for that. This I agree with.

However, Phil Thompson went too far. He said that as soon as Amad took his shirt off, he could see the referees eyes light up, and could tell he was thinking this was a great chance to make a name for himself and send him off. What an atrocious thing for a paid pundit to say about an official, especially as some morons will believe him and think the ref should be abused for such thinking. Clearly, the ref had 100% no choice but to send him off, and I'd imagine he probably felt uncomfortable having to do so in such circumstances. But, had he not sent him off, then what a dangerous bar that would set off in the future, for referees using subjectivity in booking players or not for the same offence.

He would also get hammered by the refs assessor, lose marks, may not get a game next week. They have a no choice in that, it's a black and white decision.

Really poor punditry from Thompson, a cheap shot (I didn't hear it but going off your post)

 

[GB72]

Great example on Talksport today how pundits can over-exaggerate and potentially inflame the view of listeners, to the detriment of officials (or players / managers at times).

Stelling and Phil Thompson were discussing the second yellow card for Amad yesterday, and saying it was ridiculous getting yellow cards for that. This I agree with.

However, Phil Thompson went too far. He said that as soon as Amad took his shirt off, he could see the referees eyes light up, and could tell he was thinking this was a great chance to make a name for himself and send him off. What an atrocious thing for a paid pundit to say about an official, especially as some morons will believe him and think the ref should be abused for such thinking. Clearly, the ref had 100% no choice but to send him off, and I'd imagine he probably felt uncomfortable having to do so in such circumstances. But, had he not sent him off, then what a dangerous bar that would set off in the future, for referees using subjectivity in booking players or not for the same offence.

Totally agree, pundits and media spend hours every day picking apart and demonising refs and officials then are all about complaining about ref abuse when people take their message too far.

 

[Swango1980]

He would also get hammered by the refs assessor, lose marks, may not get a game next week. They have a no choice in that, it's a black and white decision.

Really poor punditry from Thompson, a cheap shot (I didn't hear it but going off your post)

Yeah. Just so you don't think I'm over-exaggerating, watch the clip below from Time 5:25

 

[Billysboots]

Great example on Talksport today how pundits can over-exaggerate and potentially inflame the view of listeners, to the detriment of officials (or players / managers at times).

Stelling and Phil Thompson were discussing the second yellow card for Amad yesterday, and saying it was ridiculous getting yellow cards for that. This I agree with.

However, Phil Thompson went too far. He said that as soon as Amad took his shirt off, he could see the referees eyes light up, and could tell he was thinking this was a great chance to make a name for himself and send him off. What an atrocious thing for a paid pundit to say about an official, especially as some morons will believe him and think the ref should be abused for such thinking. Clearly, the ref had 100% no choice but to send him off, and I'd imagine he probably felt uncomfortable having to do so in such circumstances. But, had he not sent him off, then what a dangerous bar that would set off in the future, for referees using subjectivity in booking players or not for the same offence.

I heard it and thought Thompson was trying to sound all edgy and controversial. The man is an absolute grade one pillock. Couldn’t abide him on Soccer Saturday and can’t stand him now.

 

[PJ87]

Well well forest now the latest .. relegation battle is getting tight again.

 

[clubchamp98]

Also don't understand why, after scoring, players now run towards the corner flag, drop to their knees and slide along. Never used to happen. So what started it? And why do footballers follow a 'trend' like sheep.

That’s a nightmare to repair.
It’s the laces on the boots just drag the grass out.
We spend ages fixing the gouges.

 

[Bazzatron]

4 points. We should've just spunked whatever we wanted instead of staying within ffp or whatever its called now.

Our squad is that bare I nearly got on on Saturday.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Interesting to see if they appeal, on what counts, and whether the PL have learnt from the Everton appeal. Any point they can claim back now could be vital.

I don't think Everton have had their second hearing yet, the PL are really pushing it to the wire there.

 

[Orikoru]

FA really wants Luton to stay up.

 

[Hobbit]

FA really wants Luton to stay up.

London club… in the eyes of many northerners

 

[Don Barzini]

Well 4 points. Could have been better, could have been worse. Hopefully reduced on appeal.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Well 4 points. Could have been better, could have been worse. Hopefully reduced on appeal.

It's still within your hands at that level of fine. Any more could have been a real blow but even without winning some back on appeal this shouldn't be a devastating moment. It doesn't stop you from going down but you are only one point from safety with 9 games left. That's in your own hands still.

I'm expecting Everton to lose a few points again, the PL seem keen on it , so it will be silly close between Luton, Forest and Everton, Brentford just being on the edge of trouble

 

[Reemul]

Well 4 points. Could have been better, could have been worse. Hopefully reduced on appeal.

Well maybe if they got 10 it could be reduced but 4 seems no reason to reduce. If Everton had got 4 or 6 I couldn't see us getting any reduction either, 10 was rediculous.

 

[Swango1980]

I've lost interest in the relegation fight at this time. Just no point in taking an interest in any of the games these teams play, as nobody has any idea who will get docked points, and how many points they will be docked. Maybe once everything is finalised, the things will be interesting again, from a fans perspective.

I might as well put a bet on both Burnley and Sheffield Utd staying up, as maybe there is still a chance 3 other teams will get big enough points deductions to get them relegated.

 

[Reemul]

Apprently Everton's overspend was £19.5 mill and 10 points reduced to 6, Forests was £35 mill but 6 points reduced by 2 to 4 due to co-operation, it does feel a little like they are out to get us.