Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
Klopp. Classy as ever.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I think we should give him a break, now we know that it has all just become too much for him to cope with.
Probably would have been best for his health if he walked away immediately, but I guess that was never an option. Football management isn't the sort of profession you can just take time off for stress.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes but what’s the reason for it.
Was said a while ago you can’t bear your chest.
But players wear compression tops underneath.
So anyone know why it’s a booking.?
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Not sure of the reason for it,but it’s there.
I think players like Ronaldo & Salah do it for vanity reasons.
But they all know it’s a yellow so
Neilds
Assistant Pro
It is a stupid thing to do, not sure why they still do it. They claim it is spontaneous but players never used to do it so it is now a stupid craze that should be stopped. On a similar subject , all pre planned ‘celebrations’ should be punished - maybe Dele Ali would have scored more if he practiced scoring instead of celebrations
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
It was brought in way back in 2004 so there is no excuse anymore
It was brought in to clamp down on time wasting originally
In a way, the why is irrelevant. We all know it's there as a rule so don't do it. Plenty of other ways to celebrate. Players managed for decades without doing it (bellies were a bit saggier back then
. Can you imagine Jan Molby whipping his shirt off 
) As PJ above states, it was about reducing time wasting originally.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Ok serves him right then.In a way, the why is irrelevant. We all know it's there as a rule so don't do it. Plenty of other ways to celebrate. Players managed for decades without doing it (bellies were a bit saggier back then
As PJ above states, it was about reducing time wasting originally.
Swango1980
Well-known member
The reason of wasting time is a bit outdated. Firstly, the referee should be adding that time on anyway. Secondly, there are plenty of other celebrations that take longer. Thirdly, if VAR is taking 5 minutes to check an offside or handball, it's nonsense booking a player for taking their shirt off and putting it on again inside a minute.In a way, the why is irrelevant. We all know it's there as a rule so don't do it. Plenty of other ways to celebrate. Players managed for decades without doing it (bellies were a bit saggier back then
As PJ above states, it was about reducing time wasting originally.
So, if the yellow card is given for that reason, and that reason only, it should be scrapped.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes it’s an entertainment game after all.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
In a way, the why is irrelevant. We all know it's there as a rule so don't do it. Plenty of other ways to celebrate. Players managed for decades without doing it (bellies were a bit saggier back then
As PJ above states, it was about reducing time wasting originally.
Maybe you could try using that mindset when it comes to hats in the Clubhouse.
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Also don't understand why, after scoring, players now run towards the corner flag, drop to their knees and slide along. Never used to happen. So what started it? And why do footballers follow a 'trend' like sheep.
Ah, but we are allowed to see it as the nonsense it is thoughMaybe you could try using that mindset when it comes to hats in the Clubhouse.
. It's healthy to question why, whilst still following the rules. Hats in clubhouses, shirts off after scoring. You can question why whilst doing what the rule say. If enough people question it, eventually someone in charge might go, 'you know what, this is daft, we will change it'
I wouldn't disagree. Until then, keep your shirt on or take the yellow card
. Players can not be unaware of the rule, they know what will happen.When it first came out I thought part of the reasoning was about modesty in a chunk of the Asian market, FIFA wanting rules that applied to all. I can't seem to find that now so maybe that was just an aside?
PaulMdj
Well-known member
They do it (whatever “it” is) because they can, I think one of the reasons for clamping down on some celebrations was to stop opposition fans getting wound up and trouble breaking out.Ah, but we are allowed to see it as the nonsense it is though
Pretending to fire weapons is one such example and there was talk last week about UEFA taking action against Foden and his bow and arrow celebration.
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
In a way, the why is irrelevant. We all know it's there as a rule so don't do it. Plenty of other ways to celebrate. Players managed for decades without doing it (bellies were a bit saggier back then
As PJ above states, it was about reducing time wasting originally.
I heard the Why is to keep sponsors happy… a player scores, the camera zooms in on him, sponsors logo front and centre, worldwide exposure. Only if he’s whirling it about his head the moment is lost.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
There was more
Ah, the incitement concept. I get that, very valid, but then do you have to have a line for each new celebration? Should we only have approved onesThey do it (whatever “it” is) because they can, I think one of the reasons for clamping down on some celebrations was to stop opposition fans getting wound up and trouble breaking out.
Pretending to fire weapons is one such example and there was talk last week about UEFA taking action against Foden and his bow and arrow celebration.
.Anything involving weapons is pretty stupid, even if it is meant in innocence.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Modern Footballers mate, need it for clicks and likes on social mediaAh, the incitement concept. I get that, very valid, but then do you have to have a line for each new celebration? Should we only have approved ones
Anything involving weapons is pretty stupid, even if it is meant in innocence.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Not sure it is to do with modesty, otherwise they'd have to book players walking around topless after the matchI wouldn't disagree. Until then, keep your shirt on or take the yellow card
When it first came out I thought part of the reasoning was about modesty in a chunk of the Asian market, FIFA wanting rules that applied to all. I can't seem to find that now so maybe that was just an aside?
