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pendodave said:
I don't think United are poor poor. They are just poor compared with how they used to be, how much money they've spent, and how they'd like to be. I've seen poor, and it doesn't look like united. They are a bit average and lacking in confidence. They are also probably better than the 8th placed team in the various continental leagues.
I don't particularly dislike MU, but I think it's really good for the game that they're in this state. It reminds us all that clubs need to be well run, and that complacency and incompetence actually have a cost. The various American owners and their plotting for closed shops and automatic inclusion in various superleagues/European competitions would take this out of the game. It would be the ruin of it imho. Failure is the juice for English Football, it would be pointless without it.
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I agree with this.

League positions don’t lie and (bold statement) over the course of the season last year we were better than Liverpool, Chelsea , Villa and Newcastle. I was optimistic this season but we’ve gone backwards and are showing no signs of improving. We’re not fit to lace those teams boots.

This year the spine of the team has been decimated by injury, suspension and the wingers (as Shearer pointed out ) have been very poor. Something needs to change and fast.
 
Golfmmad said:
I think Liverpool were absolutely robbed to not get that cast iron penalty!
Odergaard was very clever but an out and out cheat. He could see out the corner of his eye that Salah would have at least got a shot away or even scored!
I don't often complain about things VAR but how they didn't give that one amazes me.
And that's coming from a neutral!
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Harsh, I’d have said unlucky to slip and handle the ball, and very lucky not to concede a penalty.

Regardless of the decision I don’t think it was deliberate movement towards the ball and attempt to handle it.
 
Being a United supporter I've become a bit of an expert on bad players, we've had so many over the last few years, but I'm sure I've not seen any as poor as the Jackson fella that plays for Chelsea.
I really think he's as poor as anyone I've seen for several years.
 
Billysboots said:
The stats Alan Shearer referred to are nothing short of staggering. Between them this season, Garnacho and Antony have passed the ball to Hojlund a mere eleven times. That’s absolutely unbelievable. And yet I see fans calling for a new striker? It’s plain to see where the problem lies.

Alas, I can’t see ETH changing much. All we keep hearing these days is that United must “stick to the plan”. What plan? Just what is it? Slow, ponderous build up play before getting the ball to the wide men, both of whom are doing absolutely nothing with it, whilst all the time allowing the opposition to get into their shape? If I can see how easy that is to defend against surely the manager and coaches can.

United are not a possession based team. They showed that yesterday. They dominated possession and did the sum total of nothing with it. Neither are they a counter attacking team. They simply don’t have the players. So what are they? I simply have no clue, and until the manager identifies a clear plan, and has the players to execute that plan, it’s just going to be more of the same.
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Maybe the “plan” is play Sunday pub league football so ETH gets the Spanish archer and walks away with a few million
 
Slime said:
Being a United supporter I've become a bit of an expert on bad players, we've had so many over the last few years, but I'm sure I've not seen any as poor as the Jackson fella that plays for Chelsea.
I really think he's as poor as anyone I've seen for several years.
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Surely the ball must have just hit him accidentally for him to ever score!
 
Shambolic defensive performance from Newcastle. Forest dangerous whenever they broke and showed that right from the start of the match and Newcastle just didn't learn. Forest should have had at least two or three more goals and should have been ahead before the penalty...poor decision making let Newcastle off the hook.

Total lack of attacking creativity and sharpness from Newcastle meant that Forests goal was never really threatened.

Thoroughly deserved win for Forest.

Disgraceful booing from a small minority of the home fans at the end...too quick to forget where the club was just two years ago.
 
TimShady said:
A huge issue with VAR is that it can’t really overturn that penalty but it also wouldn’t award that penalty.
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That isn't a huge issue with VAR tho. That is just because many decisions in football will be subjective, and we will never get away with that. And when the authorities try and rewrite the rules to make it as black and white as possible, it often makes things ten times worse.
 
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