4LEX
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Playing Foden and Bellingham is quite an attacking approach for Southgate! It's clear he hasn't got the nous to manage a progressive side, he'll go back to Rice/Phillips and Henderson as the midfield three I'm sure.
Playing Foden and Bellingham is quite an attacking approach for Southgate! It's clear he hasn't got the nous to manage a progressive side, he'll go back to Rice/Phillips and Henderson as the midfield three I'm sure.
fundy
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he'll be out of a job by the time Phillips is fit again surely
clubchamp98
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Probably the worst Italian team I have ever seen and we struggled against them.
Never seen two international sides give the ball away so much.
Bellingham the only one who was good.
WC no chance looking at that.
Never seen two international sides give the ball away so much.
Bellingham the only one who was good.
WC no chance looking at that.
4LEX
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Phillips should make the plane and I can't see the spineless FA sacking Southgate before the World Cup.
What we've witnessed over the last year is a manager panicking and trying to add random players to various systems. It's a total mess and the results, performances and stats look really bad. That said, give Germany a beating and the cracks will be papered over until we face a top side in Qatar. That's the best we can hope for.
Tuchel is available and plays the same sysem England have enjoyed success with. He made a quick impact at Chelsea in the CL but it'll never happen.
fundy
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not played quarter of an hour this year and rumoured to need shoulder surgery. Sounds like a Southgate pick I guess
4LEX
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pokerjoke
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I thought Foden and Bellingham were positives.
Saka and Sterling can never play on the same side of the field again.
Saka on the right would be better.
As others have said we’ve lost momentum at the wrong time.
My other question would be why is he so stuck on Kane and never substitutes him.
Perfect game to bring Toney on,but never even made the squad,bloody madness.
Pope didn’t inspire me with confidence either,his kicking is very poor.
Saka and Sterling can never play on the same side of the field again.
Saka on the right would be better.
As others have said we’ve lost momentum at the wrong time.
My other question would be why is he so stuck on Kane and never substitutes him.
Perfect game to bring Toney on,but never even made the squad,bloody madness.
Pope didn’t inspire me with confidence either,his kicking is very poor.
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Every generation we seem to have a player that becomes untouchable, no matter their form. Beckham, Rooney, now Kane. Everyone falls out of form, everyone has bad games. To ignore that is weak management.
clubchamp98
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Kane came looking for the ball because the service to him was dismal.
But he’s not in the box when needed then.
Felt sorry for Saka he looked so out of place.
Foden looked good on the ball .
We were wide open in front of the back line and a better team would have taken us apart.
Pope showed how good Pickford is with the ball playing out.
Piece
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Gareth, "Saka, where do you play at Arsenal?"
Saka, "Wide left or right, upfront, Boss"
Gareth, "You start left wing back"
Saka, " "
Gareth, "Harry M, you played much recently?"
Harry M, "Nah, been dropped for last month"
Gareth, "You start"
Gareth, "Luke, haven't seen much of you since Euro 2020?"
Luke, "Been rubbish, Boss."
Gareth, "Noted. You will play second half"
Gareth, "Toney, you've been in excellent form I hear"
Toney, "Yes Boss, feeling great, ready to go"
Gareth, "Nice to hear. May see you Monday".
Gareth, "Kyle, you played right of a back three?"
Kyle, "Of course, Gaffer.
Gareth, "Great, show me you can handle the ball over the top"
Kyle, "Leave it to me...."
Gareth, "Declan. Form good as West Ham struggling and no Calvin today?"
Declan, "Yes. Trust me."
Gareth, "Good man. Try and be in the wrong place if you can"
Declan, "Trust me"
Saka, "Wide left or right, upfront, Boss"
Gareth, "You start left wing back"
Saka, " "
Gareth, "Harry M, you played much recently?"
Harry M, "Nah, been dropped for last month"
Gareth, "You start"
Gareth, "Luke, haven't seen much of you since Euro 2020?"
Luke, "Been rubbish, Boss."
Gareth, "Noted. You will play second half"
Gareth, "Toney, you've been in excellent form I hear"
Toney, "Yes Boss, feeling great, ready to go"
Gareth, "Nice to hear. May see you Monday".
Gareth, "Kyle, you played right of a back three?"
Kyle, "Of course, Gaffer.
Gareth, "Great, show me you can handle the ball over the top"
Kyle, "Leave it to me...."
Gareth, "Declan. Form good as West Ham struggling and no Calvin today?"
Declan, "Yes. Trust me."
Gareth, "Good man. Try and be in the wrong place if you can"
Declan, "Trust me"
clubchamp98
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Jeez it’s like you were in the dressing room!
I do wonder what the seasoned pros who were playing think of this.
Bunkermagnet
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Perhaps like most of us.....why is Southgate still there?Jeez it’s like you were in the dressing room!
I do wonder what the seasoned pros who were playing think of this.
Golfmmad
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Blimey, reading all the posts anybody would think it was a rout and we lost 5 or 6 nil.
One goal, taken very well, I don't think they had many more shots on target.
Italy defended very well and made it difficult. Having lost out on the world cup they weren't gonna lose this one.
Let's see what happens on Monday, oh wait a minute, if we beat Germany they'll say they were a poor side! ?
Fade and Die
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Pool B for England now,. So these pointless friendlies have become even more so now…and Southgate has managed to relegate both the clubs he has managed….
I noticed unsurprisingly that West Ham’s Paul Nevin is also on the England coaching staff.
The similarities are astonishing?
If Southgate and Moyes swapped jobs would we notice the difference? Hardly! They are both relics in the modern game.
I noticed unsurprisingly that West Ham’s Paul Nevin is also on the England coaching staff.
The similarities are astonishing?
If Southgate and Moyes swapped jobs would we notice the difference? Hardly! They are both relics in the modern game.
fundy
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You mean the Germany side that lost at home to Hungary last night? Theyre no great shakes whatever happens monday lol
Bunkermagnet
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You mean the Italy side that weren't good enough to qualify for this years World Cup?
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It was also a very weakened Italy side missing a good number of their better players
Right now is your standard Southgate teams - he was defensive for Boro and in the end his poor tactics shone through
He is still living of getting through to a semi and final with the easiest run and set pieces
england have a vast array of talent at their disposal but they have an inept manager at the helm
How on earth is Maguire still starting , Saka at Left wing back ?
Kane just missing every game.How on earth doesn’t Maddison get into the squad ?
Another generation of very good English players are going to be wasted
I’m glad that he hasn’t got a clue on how to play TAA so he sits on the bench - shame for TAA though
fundy
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It was also a very weakened Italy side missing a good number of their better players
Right now is your standard Southgate teams - he was defensive for Boro and in the end his poor tactics shone through
He is still living of getting through to a semi and final with the easiest run and set pieces
england have a vast array of talent at their disposal but they have an inept manager at the helm
How on earth is Maguire still starting , Saka at Left wing back ?
How on earth doesn’t Maddison get into the squad ?
Another generation of very good English players are going to be wasted
I’m glad that he hasn’t got a clue on how to play TAA so he sits on the bench - shame for TAA though
not sure Klopp knows how to play TAA currently does he, what hope would Southgate have
Tashyboy
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Southgate said “ we are in the middle of a media love in”.
Funniest thing I have heard for ages. The man is deluded.
Him as manager of England is like asking me to drive for Red Bull in F1.
Funniest thing I have heard for ages. The man is deluded.
Him as manager of England is like asking me to drive for Red Bull in F1.
4LEX
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On a related point....can we all agree just how woeful the coverage was on C4? Absolutely shocking. One of the most depressing nights of football and coverage I've ever seen.
And what is Rice doing coming out saying they score loads of goals in training and will be fine. That line really concerns me as I rate him and think he's a leader so to say that just screams delusion.
And what is Rice doing coming out saying they score loads of goals in training and will be fine. That line really concerns me as I rate him and think he's a leader so to say that just screams delusion.
