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The Footie Thread

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Lampard is all over a 5 so that should suit. I don't see wolves much. What is his issue in a 4?

I don't want to list his faults as he's been invaluable to us since he was converted into a sweeper, but he often needs the protection of another two centre halves. His passing range is superb as it should be for a former centre mid.
 
Yes the run for the second goal was perfect.
With City’s midfield he knows if he makes the run the ball will follow.
Didn’t realise how fast he is as well.

Me neither. I was shocked just how quick he was

Breezed past us. Don't get me wrong our defence was poor

But jezz he was class

He going to be a real asset to the league

Taking the postives from the game scamacca did more in 30 odd mins than Antonio managed most of the second half of the season

Nice to see a proper striker and he looks interesting

Just need a Lb and a replacement for diop it seems he has a deal agreed with Fulham but we won't sell until we sign someone and looks like we aren't playing him either
 
Listened to the man city game on the radio - how on earth is Clinton Morrison allowed anywhere a studio.
he’s to punditry what I am to chipping
I said this last year too, he is absolutely awful, had to switch it off a couple of times just couldn't stand listening to him anymore
 
Listened to the man city game on the radio - how on earth is Clinton Morrison allowed anywhere a studio.
he’s to punditry what I am to chipping
He is as bad as the likes of Trevor Sinclair , Agbonlahor and Darren Bent
 
Because they won't put their hands in their pockets for a proper striker.
Or a “proper” striker doesn’t want to go to Man Utd due to a lack of CL football and where they are right now as a club ?‍♂️

It’s the same issue Liverpool had for years - no CL hurts the club in more ways than one

They have spent a heck of a lot of money over the last 5/6 years

Owners putting their hands in their pockets isn’t the issue you have
 
Ten Hag found out today the gulf in quality between a fourth rate league and the Premier League is vast. Stick Brighton in the Dutch league and they'd win it by miles.

Rumours of a move for Arnautovic says it all about him and the club's outlook. Really sad to see England's biggest club making the same mistakes over and over.
 
Ten Hag found out today the gulf in quality between a fourth rate league and the Premier League is vast. Stick Brighton in the Dutch league and they'd win it by miles.

Rumours of a move for Arnautovic says it all about him and the club's outlook. Really sad to see England's biggest club making the same mistakes over and over.

There’s nothing sad about it. United and their smug fans were insufferable for years. Nice to see them knocked down a peg or six :)
 
Ten Hag found out today the gulf in quality between a fourth rate league and the Premier League is vast. Stick Brighton in the Dutch league and they'd win it by miles.

Rumours of a move for Arnautovic says it all about him and the club's outlook. Really sad to see England's biggest club making the same mistakes over and over.
Ave said for a few years, that quite a few lower placed prem league teams have really been organised when they have played against City. They have adapted and been really tough to break down. I put Brighton firmly in that bracket. They are not just organised but fit. They put some serious work rate in. I watched the Brighton second goal and if I was TH I would of brought Bruno Fernandez off straight away, his tracking back was nothing short of disgraceful. He trotted back with no commitment until the Brighton player cut inside and shot. If Fernades is back into position that don’t happen. The ball is played back to keep possession.
I watched City yesterday, KDB there is so much said about his passing, goals etc. But he never shirks the graft and defensive commitments. It seems to me that some Utd players still turn up and just don’t get it. I can see TH getting brutal. What I will say him not playing Ronaldo shows me he will not mess around.
 
Ave said for a few years, that quite a few lower placed prem league teams have really been organised when they have played against City. They have adapted and been really tough to break down. I put Brighton firmly in that bracket. They are not just organised but fit. They put some serious work rate in. I watched the Brighton second goal and if I was TH I would of brought Bruno Fernandez off straight away, his tracking back was nothing short of disgraceful. He trotted back with no commitment until the Brighton player cut inside and shot. If Fernades is back into position that don’t happen. The ball is played back to keep possession.
I watched City yesterday, KDB there is so much said about his passing, goals etc. But he never shirks the graft and defensive commitments. It seems to me that some Utd players still turn up and just don’t get it. I can see TH getting brutal. What I will say him not playing Ronaldo shows me he will not mess around.
I can see Bruno being dropped to prove a point, put Erikssen in there. We'll still be rubbish, as we continue to have McFred in that midfield, both of who are severely lacking in any quality. But, Bruno has become a fancy dan player, and when his attacking skills are failing him (often now), he offers little else apart from a lot of crying and moaning.

I feel sorry for the defenders. I know they, especially Maguire, get huge criticism. But, look who they have in front of them. Fred and McTomminay do a great job of hiding being opponents, or giving the ball away as soon as they get it. If I was Maguire, even if a pass might be on occasionally, I'd be in 2 minds of actually making that pass. I'd need to be convinced they have about 15 yards of space before risking that pass, knowing there is a good chance they'll get tackled, or worse still, play a through ball directly to the opposition attacker as soon as they get it.

I'm hoping this season will simply be about ten Hag seeing how bad many of those players are. If we start next season with Fred and McTomminay, I'll be scared. I just hope we avoid relegation.

However, on a positive note, we are only 3 points behind City as it stands
 
I can see Bruno being dropped to prove a point, put Erikssen in there. We'll still be rubbish, as we continue to have McFred in that midfield, both of who are severely lacking in any quality. But, Bruno has become a fancy dan player, and when his attacking skills are failing him (often now), he offers little else apart from a lot of crying and moaning.

I feel sorry for the defenders. I know they, especially Maguire, get huge criticism. But, look who they have in front of them. Fred and McTomminay do a great job of hiding being opponents, or giving the ball away as soon as they get it. If I was Maguire, even if a pass might be on occasionally, I'd be in 2 minds of actually making that pass. I'd need to be convinced they have about 15 yards of space before risking that pass, knowing there is a good chance they'll get tackled, or worse still, play a through ball directly to the opposition attacker as soon as they get it.

I'm hoping this season will simply be about ten Hag seeing how bad many of those players are. If we start next season with Fred and McTomminay, I'll be scared. I just hope we avoid relegation.

However, on a positive note, we are only 3 points behind City as it stands

I honestly see Utd in the same position as Arsenal were when they brought in Arteta. They are a couple of seasons away from competing over a full season. They have the right person to do that now.
 
Nice to see Manchester United is the most talked about football club on Golf Monthly.

Things will be different when we sign De Jong, I'm sure the deal will get done by about 2032, when he is 35 years old.
Either that or they'll sign Nigel De Jong instead of Frenkie by accident.
 
I honestly see Utd in the same position as Arsenal were when they brought in Arteta. They are a couple of seasons away from competing over a full season. They have the right person to do that now.
It is just difficult to see why we hold on to so many bang average players for so long. It is almost like they have become really good buddies with people on the board. Hang out socially, have family days out, etc. And, when push comes to shove, there are people on the board that don't have the heart to move them out of the club.

I'm sure it cannot possibly be like that, but I just don't get it. I mean, what on earth is going on with Phil Jones!? He must be happy to just get paid by the club, but never actually play, therefore having no football ambitions. Otherwise you'd think he would try and get a move, even a loan move, elsewhere long ago. I wonder who decided it would be a good idea to offer him a 4-year contract in 2019? I don't even know his playing history in detail, but even Wikipedia stated he renewed his contract in 2015 by 4 years, and then the very next sentence was he signed another 4 year deal in 2019. No football highlights to discuss in between. All the football chat was pre 2015, and then post Jan 2020. Although the post 2020 football statements were simply about him scoring his 1st goal in over 5 years against Tranmere, and his return to the 1st team in nearly 2 years in 2022. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if he got another 4 year deal in 2023
 
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