The Footie Thread

[Orikoru]

Does anyone know why Steve Bruce is still in a job? I get giving him his 1,000th game was a nice touch but surely Monday was the day to say thank you, here's a big cheque. Keeping him just gives allows more games and points to drift.

I'm not really seeing any clear suggestions, any whispers outside of the bookies odds?

Who is available that's guaranteed to do better with such a poor squad?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

whos going to get more out of this group before they can spend money in January thats available?

They can't get less. Benitez did better with a weaker squad, no Saint Maximin, no goalscorer in Wilson. He set the team up with a plan, you can't say that with the current team.

 

[fundy]

They can't get less. Benitez did better with a weaker squad, no Saint Maximin, no goalscorer in Wilson. He set the team up with a plan, you can't say that with the current team.

and yet you still dont answer the question

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They can't get less. Benitez did better with a weaker squad, no Saint Maximin, no goalscorer in Wilson. He set the team up with a plan, you can't say that with the current team.

Last 4 seasons it’s been 10th , 13th , 13th and 12th

Two with Rafa and Two with Bruce

So who comes in ?‍

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Who is available that's guaranteed to do better with such a poor squad?

There are never guarantees but they need to do something. I'm not sure they need to wait for someone to be available. They have the funds to buy out anyone's contract if they want them badly enough.

I know that these discussions will be happening but I'm surprised they haven't let Bruce go and put one of the coaches in charge just to shake things up.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

and yet you still dont answer the question

Ah, you want a name. It depends where the club are aiming but if it was me I'd go to Rangers and get Gerrard.

 

[fundy]

Ah, you want a name. It depends where the club are aiming but if it was me I'd go to Rangers and get Gerrard.

Wouldnt be my choice, partly because of lack of experience partly because long term if he was a success Id think he would always leave if the Liverpool job came knocking, think with the money available in January Id want someone with a track record of spending big bucks and ideally with premier league experience

That said the top 10 or 12 in the betting are a mix of unproven and unrealistic options, be interesting to see who is in charge come January

 

[Cherry13]

Does anyone know why Steve Bruce is still in a job? I get giving him his 1,000th game was a nice touch but surely Monday was the day to say thank you, here's a big cheque. Keeping him just gives allows more games and points to drift.

I'm not really seeing any clear suggestions, any whispers outside of the bookies odds?

Emery the name I’ve seen/heard doing the rounds most recently, and apparantly Howe has come back into consideration.

I suspect they are lining up a few positions to get things set for Jan, DoF, CEO (charnley represented them at the vote the other day for gods sake), and then manager as well.

Id be very surprised if many managers (other than the elite like conte) would turn it down, but I would be interested if any managers have ruled themselves out due to the saudi connection, I suspect the money will be green enough.

Interesting also that klopp was the only manager to directly address the PIF investment and cal it out, do wonder if that’s also linked to FSGs dislike of staveley? But also wonder if they’ll still refuse to deal with her if we offer silly money for a fringe player?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Very impressive performance from City tonight and nice to see another young English lad (Cole Palmer) come on and get his first CL goal.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Wouldnt be my choice, partly because of lack of experience partly because long term if he was a success Id think he would always leave if the Liverpool job came knocking, think with the money available in January Id want someone with a track record of spending big bucks and ideally with premier league experience

That said the top 10 or 12 in the betting are a mix of unproven and unrealistic options, be interesting to see who is in charge come January

It's a tough one to get right. They need to get out of their current mess but also be able to attract decent names going forward. It would be easier if they were comfortably mid table but that isn't where they are at.

 

[fundy]

It's a tough one to get right. They need to get out of their current mess but also be able to attract decent names going forward. It would be easier if they were comfortably mid table but that isn't where they are at.

theres a guy called Arteta in London who specialises in mid table, you could have him

 

[Cherry13]

It's a tough one to get right. They need to get out of their current mess but also be able to attract decent names going forward. It would be easier if they were comfortably mid table but that isn't where they are at.

Howe, favre and fonseca the shortlist according to 90mins (no idea if they’re reliable, but they are top 3 with bookies). Two of those have ‘history’ with current star players which could be a worry. Favre and ASM, and Howe and Wilson.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Lol
Have a good week Stu because next weekends going to get worse when you lose

When you're emotionly attached to your local side it always tastes sweeter when you beat your local rivals, it wont have the same effect being 100's of miles away?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Emery the name I’ve seen/heard doing the rounds most recently, and apparantly Howe has come back into consideration.

I suspect they are lining up a few positions to get things set for Jan, DoF, CEO (charnley represented them at the vote the other day for gods sake), and then manager as well.

Id be very surprised if many managers (other than the elite like conte) would turn it down, but I would be interested if any managers have ruled themselves out due to the saudi connection, I suspect the money will be green enough.

Interesting also that klopp was the only manager to directly address the PIF investment and cal it out, do wonder if that’s also linked to FSGs dislike of staveley? But also wonder if they’ll still refuse to deal with her if we offer silly money for a fringe player?

Howe is a decent shout but I wonder if he will be a big enough name for the owners. He ticks a lot of boxes though and could step in straight away.

 

[Swango1980]

Ah, you want a name. It depends where the club are aiming but if it was me I'd go to Rangers and get Gerrard.

Aside from the fact the Scottish league is awful, why on earth would Gerrard leave Rangers (who I presume the fans think he is a bit of a legend now) to go to Newcastle to fight relegation with an awful side? It would only be for the money. He can easily build his reputation up in Scotland until a top team in another league comes calling. Whereas at Newcastle he risks joining a team who he may not improve, they get relegated, and his reputation unfortunately tarnished.

I find it somewhat odd that on one hand Newcastle fans were desperate to get rid of Ashley due to lack of investment, yet also seem to expect miracles from the manager in getting results from the poor team they've ended up with. Might be able to get a good run of results done seasons, but inevitably it wont happen every season. Bruce will go sooner or later, probably sooner. But the interim manager will probably be another Bruce type to fight relegation. So, the primary reason to get that manager will not necessarily be because they are better, but simply to freshen things up.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Aside from the fact the Scottish league is awful, why on earth would Gerrard leave Rangers (who I presume the fans think he is a bit of a legend now) to go to Newcastle to fight relegation with an awful side? It would only be for the money. He can easily build his reputation up in Scotland until a top team in another league comes calling. Whereas at Newcastle he risks joining a team who he may not improve, they get relegated, and his reputation unfortunately tarnished.

I find it somewhat odd that on one hand Newcastle fans were desperate to get rid of Ashley due to lack of investment, yet also seem to expect miracles from the manager in getting results from the poor team they've ended up with. Might be able to get a good run of results done seasons, but inevitably it wont happen every season. Bruce will go sooner or later, probably sooner. But the interim manager will probably be another Bruce type to fight relegation. So, the primary reason to get that manager will not necessarily be because they are better, but simply to freshen things up.

Given that, is Gerrard actually building a reputation?

 

[fundy]

Given that, is Gerrard actually building a reputation?

he already has one doesnt he

 

[Blue in Munich]

he already has one doesnt he

Don't know what you mean...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Aside from the fact the Scottish league is awful, why on earth would Gerrard leave Rangers (who I presume the fans think he is a bit of a legend now) to go to Newcastle to fight relegation with an awful side? It would only be for the money. He can easily build his reputation up in Scotland until a top team in another league comes calling. Whereas at Newcastle he risks joining a team who he may not improve, they get relegated, and his reputation unfortunately tarnished.

I find it somewhat odd that on one hand Newcastle fans were desperate to get rid of Ashley due to lack of investment, yet also seem to expect miracles from the manager in getting results from the poor team they've ended up with. Might be able to get a good run of results done seasons, but inevitably it wont happen every season. Bruce will go sooner or later, probably sooner. But the interim manager will probably be another Bruce type to fight relegation. So, the primary reason to get that manager will not necessarily be because they are better, but simply to freshen things up.

Why would he leave? Bigger salary, more money to spend on players, it's a big project that he will be part of from the beginning, the PL is an entirely different level to the SPL.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I would be surprised if Gerrard left Rangers for Newcastle.

Think Howe will prob get the role