Golfnut1957
Newbie
Yes there is a definitive list in the PL rules which determines which competitions the clubs can play in. As you can imagine the list does not contain the ESL.
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Deleted member 15344
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Let’s be honest - PSG right now are being silent because their owners are worried about rocking the boat in regards the World Cup going to Qatar , do you really think the likes of PSG , Bayern etc will not jump if this did actually happen - of course they would , there is no way they would be left behind.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Can play in is not the same as must play in. And Premier League rules can be changed.
GB72
Money List Winner
Am I right in thinking that, unless they can find another 8 clubs to vote with them, playing in the ESL is not going to get sanctioned. Seeing as it would kill off the other European competitions, I cannot see the Turkeys voting for Xmas and so the only alternative for these 6 clubs would be to leave the league.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
They aren't bothered about a few hundred thousand angry Brits removing their sports subscriptions, they're concentrating on the global TV audience, Malaysia, China, Middle East etc, millions and millions prepared to shell out to watch the elite go at it every week.
As an outsider who would you rather pay to view, Man City vs Barcelona or Fulham vs Burnley? ?
DanFST
Head Pro
50-1 rule. They wouldn't.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Fulham Burnley all day, you can keep that tiki taka rubbish, get the ball in the mixer.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Mate, you lost 9 -0 at the weekend so you're football tactics opinion means nothing ?
Golfnut1957
Newbie
What makes you think that the PL will have an option. Unless UEFA roll over and get their bellies tickled they will presumably continue with the Chumps league and expect the PL to send their champions to it. If the PL send their 7th to 11th clubs it seriously undermines the credibility of the PL as a competition and EUFA will in all probability not allow it.
It may well be that if the PL want to continue to be affiliated to UEFA and in by association FIFA then they will have to toe the UEFA line. The English FA and the EFL will almost certainly continue their affiliation with UEFA leaving the PL isolated along with the ESL.
FIFA will have a decisive role in any outcome as the banning of players from a league that they don't recognise will give the players themselves something to chew on.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
If 6 of the bigger names in the Premier League leave, where does that leave the Premier League product when it tries to sell itself abroad? Just as you cannot see 8 other teams voting to cut their own financial throats, I can't see the Premier League rushing to devalue their product either.
Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
I know it wasn't you Orikoru that said it, but some fans have said it was an obvious mistake for Levy to hire Jose in the first place, but who knows what difference one manager is going to make over another. If they fail everyone uses hindsight. But when there's only 2 outcomes in a season that supposedly means success 'Premiership or Champion League Winners' there's going to be an awful lot of 'failures'I don't like fans who are biased against certain managers because they managed rival teams or whatever, it's dumb. Hiring José seemed like a no-brainer to me, if we wanted trophies. But it obviously didn't work out. I'm not going to claim I knew it all along.
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Actually read what I wrote. I dont care about their history, they arent my club. Their fans loss, not mine. The clubs want out because theyre so big these days - so be it.
The players literally have no say in the current going on, they're contracted to any of the teams in question. Go to work and get paid. Thats it. They havent individually decided to jump ship, their owners have.
Clearly paul understood my point as per below - the players need the choice, but as of yet, they've made no decisions themselves and therefore deserve no punishment.
I also state (yet) showing that if they do decide to jump ship too, then by all means give them a giant boot in the right direction.
Sort yourself out, simple lad.
Its not them making the decision - why punish players? Its the greedy club owners that need punishment.
Golfnut1957
Newbie
If what's just been revealed on Sky Sports by reporter Kaveh Solhekol is just half true??.. He's been speaking to a board member of one of the clubs, and he's revealed :
Several Board members from the clubs are opposed to the breakaway but feel they have no power to stop it.
Owners expected a backlash but don't care about bad PR at the moment. They're primary job is to maximise revenue and profits with the good of the game is secondary to them Want LESS football, not More .. so much so, they are happy if FIFA ban players from internation football.
If they stay in the Premier League - they will be happy to play weakened teams on Saturdays so they can play their strongest mid-week in the ESL US and Saudi broadcasters already been approached and in discussions for TV rights This isn't "civil war" this is "nuclear war"
One owner has said that they aren't bothered if they get booted from the Premier League - the riches on offer is more than enough to compensate them The US owners don't understand the concept of relegation and think it's crazy Some of the other 14 Premier League teams are calling for immediate suspension of these 6 from the Premier League right now ..
If even half of these claims are true then there is absolutely no way back from this for these 6 clubs ..
Several Board members from the clubs are opposed to the breakaway but feel they have no power to stop it.
Owners expected a backlash but don't care about bad PR at the moment. They're primary job is to maximise revenue and profits with the good of the game is secondary to them Want LESS football, not More .. so much so, they are happy if FIFA ban players from internation football.
If they stay in the Premier League - they will be happy to play weakened teams on Saturdays so they can play their strongest mid-week in the ESL US and Saudi broadcasters already been approached and in discussions for TV rights This isn't "civil war" this is "nuclear war"
One owner has said that they aren't bothered if they get booted from the Premier League - the riches on offer is more than enough to compensate them The US owners don't understand the concept of relegation and think it's crazy Some of the other 14 Premier League teams are calling for immediate suspension of these 6 from the Premier League right now ..
If even half of these claims are true then there is absolutely no way back from this for these 6 clubs ..
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Fade and Die
Medal Winner
It's going to get messy.
A compromise is needed.
Walk away, Just relegate Spurs and the Red Scouse, fine them each a billion and we'll shake hands and move on. ?
GB72
Money List Winner
As someone has mentioned below, my thought is that this is just the start to trigger a chain of events that leads to one European Superleague with its own cup competitions etc and a total break from the national league structures.
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There’s no way the “Big 6” can play in the Super League and the Prem, they are already moaning about fixture congestion etc, so add in the midweek Super League when they’ve got a midweek PL fixture or a Carabao Cup match or on an international break, something will give and there is no way the FA or other Clubs will bend to please them 6.
Golfnut1957
Newbie
Don't forget that the people behind these teams are no longer the local butcher made good and only wants the best for their team. These people are multi-national money makers and have no loyalty to English football, the PL, the FA or UEFA their goal is make money and these clubs are not local institutions they are vehicles to fulfill that aim.
As an aside, Barcelona are over a billion euros in debt.
Maybe they'll drop the FA and Carabao Cups. Tail wagging the dog. When a team joins a league they abide by the league rules. Sounds like the Super 6 have other ideas.
If this new structure does happen, I'd expect a number of small clubs, or even the Prem, might fold. Its not to unlike the issue with American Football many years ago, P.Shark might be able to give more detail on that, when new leagues and teams were formed.
As for supporters, how many will be able to travel to 15 away fixtures? This is all about greed, and sod the fans.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
End up using their reserves in the Super League, people in Qatar and UAE paying thousands to watch Divock Origi take on Axel Tuanzebe.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
Whilst I don't agree with the ESL I thought this was true from Twitter....
And then Premier League, FA and UEFA have the cheek to virtue signal and pretend that they’re in football as some altruistic gesture to the fans. The same people that tried to charge £15 a match pay per view during a pandemic? If anything they're just angry that they haven't managed to get this sort of thing up and running with the associated money it would bring in.
And then Premier League, FA and UEFA have the cheek to virtue signal and pretend that they’re in football as some altruistic gesture to the fans. The same people that tried to charge £15 a match pay per view during a pandemic? If anything they're just angry that they haven't managed to get this sort of thing up and running with the associated money it would bring in.
