The Footie Thread

[clubchamp98]

Cannot see this changing the fact that it's highly likely that Kane will leave at the end of this season. At his age time is running out and he wants that one big move to a club that'll be more competitive, from a financial pov Levy will want a load of cash and this is probably his last chance to command the sort of fees that he wants. I think the problem will be where he goes. Financially it's likely that City and United are the two that can afford the money that Levy would want however would he sell to a rival? If City got Spurs I think that'd be the league done for the next however many seasons, how would you compete with that sort of squad and a goalscorer like Kane?! Barca and Real will be mentioned but there is the issue of whether they can afford the fee.

Will Kane go to a big club that will be playing in a closed super league?
Won’t do his medal tally much good.

 

[Golfnut1957]

There’s no way the “Big 6” can play in the Super League and the Prem, they are already moaning about fixture congestion etc, so add in the midweek Super League when they’ve got a midweek PL fixture or a Carabao Cup match or on an international break, something will give and there is no way the FA or other Clubs will bend to please them 6.

Gary Neville said it last night. They are going to receive 300 million for playing mid-week and then turn up for the PL on a Saturday, competition, what competition. If they do join the ESL the PL will have to boot them out or watch their much vaunted league die.


I watched Burnley give Utd a game yesterday and enjoyed it way more than many a sterile game between these supposed elite 6. It is what makes the PL so good.

Given the choice I will more often than not watch a Championship game over a Champions League game. I don't get to see Phil Foden light up the pitch, but I also don't have to watch meaningless possession.

 

[Orikoru]

I don't even watch the Champion's League when Spurs are not in it. Not interested at all.

 

[GB72]

Gary Neville said it last night. They are going to receive 300 million for playing mid-week and then turn up for the PL on a Saturday, competition, what competition. If they do join the ESL the PL will have to boot them out or watch their much vaunted league die.


I watched Burnley give Utd a game yesterday and enjoyed it way more than many a sterile game between these supposed elite 6. It is what makes the PL so good.

Given the choice I will more often than not watch a Championship game over a Champions League game. I don't get to see Phil Foden light up the pitch, but I also don't have to watch meaningless possession.

This is where the EFL clubs have a chance to step up their marketing game, start selling themselves to fans of these 6 clubs and see if they can attract a larger fan base and improve their positions.

 

[Golfnut1957]

Apparently it starts to get interesting tonight. The remaining teams in Serie A are meeting tonight to determine what course of action they take. I wonder if they have spoken to the other top leagues affected and whether it will be a pointer to the future.

 

[IanM]

The wannabes in the replica shirts that have never set foot in a stadium will be lapping this up.

The outrage on the radio this morning is hilarious.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

I am not a big football follower now, but this proposed Super league does sadden me.
I am reading Jimmy Greaves's book at this very moment, ( and he is so right), and in my lifetime from a young man to an old man , football and all that is good and exciting about it as a fan, has almost disintegrated. And now this.!

I would like to see the players of these six clubs make it known they won't play in this super league.
It may be said they are legally bound to play for the Club they signed up to.
But a good lawyer for them could and would argue that they signed up to play for the Club within the framework and auspices of that Clubs governing bodies, which at the time were the Football League and Football Association, including Eufa and Fifa.
That they would be playing with all the benefits and obligations to those parent organisations is what was the basis of their signing, and if those Bodies reject their Club on the basis of their Club unilaterally leaving or being expelled from those organisations, then those clubs should not be able to legally force those players to go along with them.
The players could legally claim they are free to leave the contracts and become free agents .
Some top British players have a very important decision to make.
The possibility of becoming pariahs to their fans, and burning bridges
doesn't adequately describe their situation if this league goes ahead and the impasse remains.

 

[Old Skier]

Let’s be honest - PSG right now are being silent because their owners are worried about rocking the boat in regards the World Cup going to Qatar , do you really think the likes of PSG , Bayern etc will not jump if this did actually happen - of course they would , there is no way they would be left behind.

I would be very surprised if Germany got involved but like you, its just an opinion. As to the French, who knows. The German model of governance is far different than most UK clubs and they would have to win over the fans before they could proceed.

 

[Old Skier]

They aren't bothered about a few hundred thousand angry Brits removing their sports subscriptions, they're concentrating on the global TV audience, Malaysia, China, Middle East etc, millions and millions prepared to shell out to watch the elite go at it every week.
As an outsider who would you rather pay to view, Man City vs Barcelona or Fulham vs Burnley? ?

Quite happy watching Wrexham myself, been to watch Liverpool quite few times and enjoy the odd trip to London to watch Fulham. Prefer going to games rather than watching in my slippers.

 

[Blue in Munich]

This is where the EFL clubs have a chance to step up their marketing game, start selling themselves to fans of these 6 clubs and see if they can attract a larger fan base and improve their positions.

If you really think that an EFL team will persuade the fans of these clubs to come over to them then you have lost the plot. The genuine season ticket holding fans support one professional team and one team only, that support is not for sale.

If it happens that Chelsea are kicked out then I walk away from the professional game as a fan. I may try grass roots football and see if it appeals but I am not for sale to Fulham, Charlton or anybody else.

 

[Old Skier]

There’s no way the “Big 6” can play in the Super League and the Prem, they are already moaning about fixture congestion etc, so add in the midweek Super League when they’ve got a midweek PL fixture or a Carabao Cup match or on an international break, something will give and there is no way the FA or other Clubs will bend to please them 6.

How are the "Big 6" decided, is it a revenue thing because looking at the table at the moment there a clubs in there having great difficulty in being in the big 6. Or is it as I suspect, the 6 clubs with the biggest amount of fans that don't even know what bus to catch to the ground.

 

[Blue in Munich]

How are the "Big 6" decided, is it a revenue thing because looking at the table at the moment there a clubs in there having great difficulty in being in the big 6. Or is it as I suspect, the 6 clubs with the biggest amount of fans that don't even know what bus to catch to the ground.

The ones that hold the most attraction to the armchair fans who will be the cash cow for the new league.

 

[Papas1982]

I would be very surprised if Germany got involved but like you, its just an opinionated watch . As to the French, who knows. The German model of governance is far different than most UK clubs and they would have to win over the fans before they could proceed.

Whilst I agree they are run different.
they would only have to win over a certain percentage to do so.
I wouldn’t say it’s unrealistic to think that certain portion would rather watch their team play the best of Europe week in week out.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How are the "Big 6" decided, is it a revenue thing because looking at the table at the moment there a clubs in there having great difficulty in being in the big 6. Or is it as I suspect, the 6 clubs with the biggest amount of fans that don't even know what bus to catch to the ground.

That’s what I posted before, we’ve had the “Top 4” “Big 5” and “Big 6” sadly Sky have been responsible for these tag lines over the last few years, it certainly isn’t done on history, fan base or League position for every team, some fit quite easily in to the description and some struggle year to year.

I don’t believe they have the highest revenue or even the richest 6 owners.?‍

 

[Doon frae Troon]

If 6 of the bigger names in the Premier League leave, where does that leave the Premier League product when it tries to sell itself abroad? Just as you cannot see 8 other teams voting to cut their own financial throats, I can't see the Premier League rushing to devalue their product either.

Two tier British League with Scots and NI teams involved.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Whilst I agree they are run different.
they would only have to win over a certain percentage to do so.
I wouldn’t say it’s unrealistic to think that certain portion would rather watch their team play the best of Europe week in week out.

Whilst I agree some fans of some Clubs may feel that way, but I don’t think the majority do, if the FA folded and allowed them to play in both the PL and Super League they may keep some fans.

In all honesty LPool fans really only care about Man Utd as rivals out the “Big 6” I can’t see them suddenly finding the same passion for the rest or even those from Europe if they are playing them every season.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

How are the "Big 6" decided, is it a revenue thing because looking at the table at the moment there a clubs in there having great difficulty in being in the big 6. Or is it as I suspect, the 6 clubs with the biggest amount of fans that don't even know what bus to catch to the ground.

The clubs that attract the most fans from outside the UK I suspect - the world wide cash cow

If you go abroad you will see people wearing shirts of those clubs. Arsenal and Spurs inclusion will be contested because they haven’t really been big European clubs in recent years , but those 6 are the main clubs that represent England in Europe over the past 20/30 years and it’s hard to see what other clubs you could replace them with

 

[fundy]

Maybe they'll drop the FA and Carabao Cups. Tail wagging the dog. When a team joins a league they abide by the league rules. Sounds like the Super 6 have other ideas.

If this new structure does happen, I'd expect a number of small clubs, or even the Prem, might fold. Its not to unlike the issue with American Football many years ago, P.Shark might be able to give more detail on that, when new leagues and teams were formed.

As for supporters, how many will be able to travel to 15 away fixtures? This is all about greed, and sod the fans.

its about the "future fans" not the "legacy fans"

 

[Blue in Munich]

Two tier British League with Scots and NI teams involved.

And where are you getting 6 big names from those 2 leagues?

 

[fundy]

The ones that hold the most attraction to the armchair fans who will be the cash cow for the new league.

5 years ago I happily supported Arsenal, Saracens rugby and Essex cricket. 5 years time unlikely to be any of them left to support in the guise they were then