The Footie Thread

[clubchamp98]

Nick said 1 point, the feet, unfortunately the toenails are attached to feet, so either you are on or off side.

So either you “totally agree” with him or you don’t, you change what you think VAR should judge every match you watch!

No it’s the rules that are changing.
Look at the handball rule absolute joke.

I read Nicks post and I have changed my opinion( that’s allowed isn’t it?) even on here!
What he says about the penalty rule makes perfect sense to me I have never thought about it that way.
At least it would be consistent one reference point.
It’s up to the player to stay onside then.

But the WBA player would still be offside ,I said he was unlucky.
How you take that as moaning only you can answer.
It’s a discussion nothing more.

 

[Orikoru]

I don’t have an issue with anything you’ve put, but you have to remember how we got in this mess and unfortunately it was because judgement calls weren’t accepted by managers, players or fans, especially when the media stepped in.

Because they only had one look, in real time! Of course they were getting things wrong, and if they just had a second look at it, slowed down, they would definitely get more things correct than before. And none of these stupid protocols on what they can and can't change or review - just let the ref decide what he wants to review. He's meant to be in charge after all.

 

[Imurg]

You've got a new handball rule to get used to from 1st July....
Good luck with that.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

There are so many aspects to the application of VAR that make you seriously wonder what sort of idiots they had around the table discussing it. They totally jumped the shark and made it way overblown. It really could have been as simple as just installing those TVs at pitchside for the ref to go have a second look if he needed to. Just that minor change is all that was needed and I think would worked fine. The only extra member of staff you'd need is someone to run the replay footage on the TV for him.

How is something that is missed by the Officials then picked up?

The reason they went for Stockley Pk was to avoid VAR Officials coming under pressure at grounds and putting it in a central, nuetral location.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No it’s the rules that are changing.
Look at the handball rule absolute joke.

I read Nicks post and I have changed my opinion( that’s allowed isn’t it?) even on here!
What he says about the penalty rule makes perfect sense to me I have never thought about it that way.
At least it would be consistent one reference point.
It’s up to the player to stay onside then.

But the WBA player would still be offside ,I said he was unlucky.
How you take that as moaning only you can answer.
It’s a discussion nothing more.

Or great defending by the opposition moving out as one or were they lucky?

 

[clubchamp98]

Maybe in Rugby there are far more instances where the ball in play is obscured by the referees (or his assistants) viewpoint and the multiple TV angle coverage actually really does assist the officials. Very little in football is not directly observable by one of the three men in black.

Unfortunately the last sentence was one of the main reasons VAR was introduced imo.
The standard excuse / reason was “ I didn’t have a clear view of the incident “

 

[Orikoru]

How is something that is missed by the Officials then picked up?

The reason they went for Stockley Pk was to avoid VAR Officials coming under pressure at grounds and putting it in a central, nuetral location.

I don't think there's anything that gets missed TOTALLY. Normally there will be players up in arms or what-have-you, so the ref can think "I'd better review this". Like if someone is lying down holding their face for example. I can't think of an example where all four match-day officials would miss it and all the players did as well so nobody asked him for the foul or decision.

 

[clubchamp98]

Or great defending by the opposition moving out as one or were they lucky?

That’s precision defending if they can get a toe offside.

Look I never said he wasn’t offside.
I said he was unlucky!
He’s looking down the precision of line the defence and his toe strayed offside.
But I think most Everton fans will say you were lucky his toe was offside and the correct decision was made under the current rules.
Just like Liverpool were lucky with the Werner offside imo of course.
No defence is that precise.

 

[nickjdavis]

They totally jumped the shark and made it way overblown...

Shark jumping? Is this a new sport? If it is I want to see it!!!!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I don't think there's anything that gets missed TOTALLY. Normally there will be players up in arms or what-have-you, so the ref can think "I'd better review this". Like if someone is lying down holding their face for example. I can't think of an example where all four match-day officials would miss it and all the players did as well so nobody asked him for the foul or decision.

The fourth official does not have any authority to intervene on what happens on the pitch, that would need a change.

Are you seriously saying you’d prefer to go back to the pre VAR days?

 

[clubchamp98]

Shark jumping? Is this a new sport? If it is I want to see it!!!!

I might watch it.
But not a sport I would like to participate in.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That’s precision defending if they can get a toe offside.

Look I never said he wasn’t offside.
I said he was unlucky!
He’s looking down the precision of line the defence and his toe strayed offside.
But I think most Everton fans will say you were lucky his toe was offside and the correct decision was made under the current rules.
Just like Liverpool were lucky with the Werner offside imo of course.
No defence is that precise.

 

[clubchamp98]

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Ditto.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Why dont strikers or defenders get green turf coloured boots, or are they not allowed?

Now that would make the "lines" harder to decipher.

 

[clubchamp98]

Why dont strikers or defenders get green turf coloured boots, or are they not allowed?

Now that would make the "lines" harder to decipher.

They would change the colour of the grass to suit VAR.
Must admit I have never seen a green pair of boots.
Seen green golf shoes they were hideous.

 

[chrisd]

Why dont strikers or defenders get green turf coloured boots, or are they not allowed?

Now that would make the "lines" harder to decipher.

No chance that would work cos, as you know, the grass is always greener ?

 

[Tashyboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56291850

well it’s a step in the right direction, but talk about change the rules half way through a season. I despair at the folk who run this game.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56291850

well it’s a step in the right direction, but talk about change the rules half way through a season. I despair at the folk who run this game.

Implemented 01 July mate.??

 

[Orikoru]

The fourth official does not have any authority to intervene on what happens on the pitch, that would need a change.

Are you seriously saying you’d prefer to go back to the pre VAR days?

Where did you get that from? I'd prefer to do it the way I described earlier. With VAR, but without the stupid lines and rule changes and Stockley Park which is all ruining it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Where did you get that from? I'd prefer to do it the way I described earlier. With VAR, but without the stupid lines and rule changes and Stockley Park which is all ruining it.

Because you need a set of dedicated eyes watching VAR and what’s going on on the pitch to bring these missed incidents to the Refs attention.

Already told you the 4th Official is currently not allowed to interfere with the action on the field, so by default you seem happy to accept if something happens on the field and none of the 3 Officials see it, we just ignore it, therefore as it was pre VAR.

VAR is far from perfect but they get more right than wrong.