The Footie Thread

[4LEX]

VAR really needs to be ditched. All it's doing is slowing the game down, taking the passion from it and still getting things wrong!

Even the most one eyed fan can forgive the ref a mistake during the game, what you can't forgive is having the game ruined by a system that still makes mistakes after dozens of replays. It adds another layer to the argument and makes everything more complex. It will lower the standard of refs as they're using it as a crutch. The standard of reffing this season has been shameful and the VAR control room even worse.

Theres been more VAR talk than the good old days of blaming the ref. You'll never have a perfect system unless you simplify the rules and let VAR ref the game 100% with the ref following their orders like a robot

 

[Steve Wilkes]

VAR really needs to be ditched. All it's doing is slowing the game down, taking the passion from it and still getting things wrong!

Even the most one eyed fan can forgive the ref a mistake during the game, what you can't forgive is having the game ruined by a system that still makes mistakes after dozens of replays. It adds another layer to the argument and makes everything more complex. It will lower the standard of refs as they're using it as a crutch. The standard of reffing this season has been shameful and the VAR control room even worse.

Theres been more VAR talk than the good old days of blaming the ref. You'll never have a perfect system unless you simplify the rules and let VAR ref the game 100% with the ref following their orders like a robot

This post should be sent to the people in charge, no other solution or ideas can make VAR work. The idea of stop, starting a football match every 5 minutes, so every decision is looked at from all angles to see if we can change the on field decision is not what anyone wants

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Where did you get that from? I'd prefer to do it the way I described earlier. With VAR, but without the stupid lines and rule changes and Stockley Park which is all ruining it.

Personally I would be very happy to scrap VAR altogether and revert back to relying solely upon the onfield officials.

VAR was supposed to ensure correct decisions but it would appear that there are still just as many disputes.

The only difference is that it now takes longer and breaks up the flow of the game to reach those decisions.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I like the idea of VAR

So keep it

30 seconds max check.....any part of the body in line with the last defender means onside... I mean to score a goal the whole of the ball must cross all of the line so player should have to be wholly past the last defender

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Personally I would be very happy to scrap VAR altogether and revert back to relying solely upon the onfield officials.

VAR was supposed to ensure correct decisions but it would appear that there are still just as many disputes.

The only difference is that it now takes longer and breaks up the flow of the game to reach those decisions.

I’d love to scrap it, but believe it’s here forever now.

I just hope they get it sorted sooner rather than later as the last 2 seasons have been an embarrassment.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I’d love to scrap it, but believe it’s here forever now.

I just hope they get it sorted sooner rather than later as the last 2 seasons have been an embarrassment.

Yes I am afraid the authorities aren't likely to back down now.

I wish I knew how its use can be improved.

 

[fundy]

Yes I am afraid the authorities aren't likely to back down now.

I wish I knew how its use can be improved.

2 things for me, needs to be simplified, and needs to be clear and transparent so that everyone knows what the ruling should be rather than having a clue what theyll decide as is the current case

offside, theyre going to insist on still drawing lines, if thats the case then they should only use the boots

handball, remove all accidental handball (make it hand to ball not ball to hand), benefit of the doubt to the defender for me

fouls, this is a bit harder but for me needs to be enough contact to cause a player to be impeded and/or go down (subjective to some degree i know), need to get away from any contact is a foul and ex players encouraging players to win a penalty. should also be a "diving panel" and any simulation and/or going down too easily leads to a 2 match ban, lets see how many of them want to dive 5 times a game then


that or scrap it totally

 

[Deleted member 18588]

2 things for me, needs to be simplified, and needs to be clear and transparent so that everyone knows what the ruling should be rather than having a clue what theyll decide as is the current case

offside, theyre going to insist on still drawing lines, if thats the case then they should only use the boots

handball, remove all accidental handball (make it hand to ball not ball to hand), benefit of the doubt to the defender for me

fouls, this is a bit harder but for me needs to be enough contact to cause a player to be impeded and/or go down (subjective to some degree i know), need to get away from any contact is a foul and ex players encouraging players to win a penalty. should also be a "diving panel" and any simulation and/or going down too easily leads to a 2 match ban, lets see how many of them want to dive 5 times a game then


that or scrap it totally

As decisions always have been subject to interpretation and even with VAR continue to be so I am afraid I remain in favour of scrapping it.

However, I don't see it happening any time soon.

Offside lines are a joke since the TV technology is not accurate enough to precisely indicate when the ball is played.

 

[fundy]

As decisions always have been subject to interpretation and even with VAR continue to be so I am afraid I remain in favour of scrapping it.

However, I don't see it happening any time soon.

Offside lines are a joke since the TV technology is not accurate enough to precisely indicate when the ball is played.

and wont be until there is a chip in every boot and ball, 1 frame can be 20cm yet they want to measure to the mm having "guessed" the frame. sadly thats not going away

 

[Tashyboy]

and wont be until there is a chip in every boot and ball, 1 frame can be 20cm yet they want to measure to the mm having "guessed" the frame. sadly thats not going away

There’s just so much that is wrong with the rules in football now it is embarrassing. As has been mentioned a player can be offside by an inch. An inch of his body that he cannot score with. But a penalty he has to be in the box, Not an inch inside the box. A corner for instance. As long as some of the ball is level with the line it can be just an inch it’s ok. how’s that right. Some of the officiating this year has been shocking. Some of the VAR decisions. Dear lord. City are running away with the league and am struggling to get excited. Every goal is an anti climax til VAR has had a look. We Have spent more time talking about officials and VAR this year than actual football.

 

[Liverbirdie]

People who dont go the match shouldn't have a say in VAR.

 

[sawtooth]

VAR isn't the issue it's all the stupid , ambiguous, confusing rules that have shown up in the past few years.

 

[paddyc]

Get in Auba that's a nice start.

 

[USER1999]

Again, it's an oddly rotated squad, but happy to score an early goal at the right end for once.

 

[fundy]

was just about to post we'll regret not scoring a second.....

and another error for Xhaka that will be excused yet again, how much more do we have to put up with from him

 

[Deleted member 21784]

was just about to post we'll regret not scoring a second.....

and another error for Xhaka that will be excused yet again, how much more do we have to put up with from him

Leno played his part. Why play it to him? So much danger

Xhaka should have booted it away but still

 

[Slime]

Oh, that was poor, funny, but poor.

 

[fundy]

I agree completely

 

[pendodave]

Pitch is like a park, just the surface to be tippy-tapping it around 12 yards from goal with a hairy oik up your arris...
It's a systemic/planning mistake more than an individual error imho.

 

[Deleted member 21784]