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[Deleted member 15344]

They certainly are and that is in part, a large part, due to players constantly cheating and, therefore, making the officials' job almost impossible.

Yesterday a Leeds player got his foot kicked in the same way as Robertson the week before , he stayed on his feet nothing was given - last week Welbeck threw himself to the ground after the same level of tackle - got the penalty .

Do you blame the players for going down when they know that the refs won’t give it If they stay on their feet

 

[Fade and Die]

Do we really need them? I wouldn't miss any of them tbh.

Those who used to recite Andy Gray and co on radio phone ins etc would be buggered though

We don’t need them at all but the armchair “letter of the law” brigade do. And sadly they are more important to the PL than you or I.

 

[Fade and Die]

It was certainly more than two inches and he was facing the wrong way to head it away from the goal.
Pogba had a good game, I think most unbiased people would agree with that.
As I asked before, just out of curiosity, why do you hate United so much?

Even with my Claret and Blue specs on I didn’t think it was a penalty, there was another incident though when the left back hand balled it right in front of the linesman (not in the area though) but the ref waived play on. Now if that was in the area it would have been a VAR penalty. Which highlights the ridiculousness of the current situation where the same incident can have 2 possible outcomes depending where it took place!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yesterday a Leeds player got his foot kicked in the same way as Robertson the week before , he stayed on his feet nothing was given - last week Welbeck threw himself to the ground after the same level of tackle - got the penalty .

Do you blame the players for going down when they know that the refs won’t give it If they stay on their feet

It’ll be interesting to see what Gallagher says on Sky tomorrow as he said Robertson’s was the correct decision.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Kinda surprised no one has mentioned what has gone off at Millwall, or have they. A few folks I have spoken to have said that bending a knee has gone on long enough.
Whats folks thoughts on this matter.

Seems as though it wasn't just Millwall. Heard rumours (but nothing concrete) that it happened at several grounds. Colchester have issued a statement saying that it happened at our home game as well, although it appears that they were a very small minority and most got shut down by other fans around them.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

It’ll be interesting to see what Gallagher says on Sky tomorrow as he said Robertson’s was the correct decision.

He's a paid mouth piece for the PGMOL, pointless having him on.

 

[Slime]

Yesterday a Leeds player got his foot kicked in the same way as Robertson the week before , he stayed on his feet nothing was given - last week Welbeck threw himself to the ground after the same level of tackle - got the penalty .

Do you blame the players for going down when they know that the refs won’t give it If they stay on their feet

It's a case of they all go down or they all stay on their feet.
Ideally they'd all stay on their feet, reality dictates that this will never be the case.
So no, I don't blame players for going down ......................... but it's still a dive, therefore cheating.
I hate it when they do it, but understand why they do it.
Until they get regularly booked for diving it will never go away, sadly.

 

[Kellfire]

It's political. So not allowed to debate

Racism is a social issue as well. Saying it’s political suggests that it’s a valid political opinion to not want to end systemic racism on black people, which of course it isn’t.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It's a case of they all go down or they all stay on their feet.
Ideally they'd all stay on their feet, reality dictates that this will never be the case.
So no, I don't blame players for going down ......................... but it's still a dive, therefore cheating.
I hate it when they do it, but understand why they do it.
Until they get regularly booked for diving it will never go away, sadly.

Players have been making meals of challenges for decades - a lot of times it’s done to ensure the referee gives the foul , that’s not cheating if a foul has been committed.

It’s a dive when they has been no touch and the player is looking to gain an advantage

Until the referee gives fouls for all challenges then players are going to ensure they get the free kick.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

He's a paid mouth piece for the PGMOL, pointless having him on.

As far as you’re concerned they are all useless, at least if they stick to one person you can see if there is continuity or not.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

As far as you’re concerned they are all useless, at least if they stick to one person you can see if there is continuity or not.

Not all. Just some.

I think the way the tech is being used is a bigger issue though. We've seen incidents involving all clubs, not just my team, wrongly given. I'm hoping having fans back might just improve refs in a strange way.

Football officiation is a mess.

 

[Slime]

Players have been making meals of challenges for decades - a lot of times it’s done to ensure the referee gives the foul , that’s not cheating if a foul has been committed.

It’s a dive when they has been no touch and the player is looking to gain an advantage

Until the referee gives fouls for all challenges then players are going to ensure they get the free kick.

I totally get where you're coming from, but in my opinion, if a touch is not enough to floor a player and that player makes a conscious decision to hit the deck, that's a dive. He wasn't brought down, he went down of his own volition.
As I said earlier, I understand why they do it, I just wish they wouldn't.
Also, not every touch is a foul but players are making it seem that way.

 

[fundy]

Players have been making meals of challenges for decades - a lot of times it’s done to ensure the referee gives the foul , that’s not cheating if a foul has been committed.

It’s a dive when they has been no touch and the player is looking to gain an advantage

Until the referee gives fouls for all challenges then players are going to ensure they get the free kick.

If the contact doesnt impede the player its not a foul, the ref doesnt need to be giving a foul for all challenges, this is a big part of the problem imo, most of the time all they are trying to prove is there any contact not "enough" contact when reviewing

 

[Deleted member 29109]

It's political. So not allowed to debate

Nothing political about wanting an end to racism.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

A player can be impeded without it forcing him to ground.

Knocked slightly off balance, having to check his stride and thus slowed. In those types of incident the player has been disadvantaged i.e. impeded.

If he doesn't go to ground it is likely that no penalty or free kick is awarded.

That can't be right.

 

[fundy]

A player can be impeded without it forcing him to ground.

Knocked slightly off balance, having to check his stride and thus slowed. In those types of incident the player has been disadvantaged i.e. impeded.

If he doesn't go to ground it is likely that no penalty or free kick is awarded.

That can't be right.

Its not right but thats down to the refs and how it is officiated, no need for a player to then do a swan dive to "win" a free kick/penalty and then be praised for it

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Nothing political about wanting an end to racism.

Whilst I agree the people who booed are claiming it's political reasons not racism .. so yes the discussion about what happened yesterday would be political ..

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Whilst I agree the people who booed are claiming it's political reasons not racism .. so yes the discussion about what happened yesterday would be political ..

Of course they were. Millwall fans are well know for their ability to debate difficult political issues tactfully.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Of course they were. Millwall fans are well know for their ability to debate difficult political issues tactfully.

Anyone who booed yest should be ashamed of themsleves and banned for life. Imo

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Its not right but thats down to the refs and how it is officiated, no need for a player to then do a swan dive to "win" a free kick/penalty and then be praised for it

It's not so much that they get praised for doing it.

Rather that they are criticised if they don't and their side are not awarded a penalty.

In any event I have never been able to understand players being congratulated when a penalty is awarded even if it is a most obvious award.

After all there is no guarantee that the penalty will be scored.