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Yes. The same ref aswell
Yes. The same ref aswell
fundy
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Koeman cant have long left at Barca
GreiginFife
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Just said that to a mate. Was the cheap option and not the right appointment.
But of he keeps his job he has compromising pictures of board members.
Never seen a Barca side so disjointed and his insistence at persevering with Griezman is baffling, he is utter wash.
Same for Trincao, stealing a living.
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This is exactly why you can't blame players for going down. Anywhere else on the pitch and that is a free kick.
fundy
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only chance he has is staying until the presidency vote in January, not a chance any incoming president keeps him
mutterings that PSG are preparing to do a deal for Messi cant help either
4LEX
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They were shambolic! Barcelona have been as badly managed and run as Utd in the last 4 years, the difference is they had Messi towing the line and papering over the cracks. Now he's going through the motions the true scale of the rot is evident.
Coutinho, Dembele and Griezmann cost £360m combined in fees and have literally done nothing. Throw in wages and you're looking at nearly half a billion.
Tashyboy
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Be interesting watching Barca implode through the summer. Messi Gone, presidential elections, manager situation. No money, at this rate its hard to see that they will qualify for the champs league.
4LEX
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One of the most bizzare games I've seen.
West Ham should've been 3/4 up after 60 mins. Missed two one on ones, Pogba nearly booting someone in the head in the box too for an obvious penalty. The first Utd goal was clearly out of play. You can't kick a ball with side spin from point A to point B over such a distance without it needing space to curve.
How embarrassing is Pogba though. A total joke for the whole season, scores one decent finish and gives it the big one. I'll laugh my head off when he runs his contract down and signs for Real Madrid on a free and we don't have to see the parasite in England again.
Compare that to Rashford who was just different class when when came on, tore West Ham apart. Utd shoud've binned Pogba and Martial in the summer and landed Sancho. A front three of Rashford - Greenwood - Sancho would be brilliant and only get better.
I hope RB and City give them what's coming
4LEX
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I think they'll bring in Xavi as manager shortly and sign a proper striker in January. Messi back onside and finish Top 3. La Liga is an average league this season. It looks like Atletico will grind it out.
Until then we can laugh at a side containing £400m of attackers AND Messi yet still having Martin Braithwaite upfront
clubchamp98
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They don’t flag for offside now???
He has one job ,is the ball in or out and he didn’t do it!
clubchamp98
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No wonder Sterling is top of the penalties won league.
Bit surprised no Liverpool players in the top four .
The Leeds non penalty shows why players go down.
Bit surprised no Liverpool players in the top four .
The Leeds non penalty shows why players go down.
Slime
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Certainly neither of these occurred in the game I watched.
Pogba's boot wasn't near the player's head, certainly not near enough to even consider it a penalty.
Clearly out of play to you and David Moyes, obviously.
The amount a ball curves over any prescribed distance depends on the amount of sidespin. A lot of sidespin = a large curve, a small amount of sidespin = a slight curve. I couldn't measure the amount of sidespin, could you?
Oh, and Pogba had a good game and his 'decent' finish was actually a superb finish.
Why do you hate United so much?
4LEX
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It was dangerous play and about 2 inches from the strikers head! If that had been a striker doing the same it would've been a foul. It was needless when a header would've sufficed.
The ball was clearly out but with no proof it couldn't be overturned. Very similar to a high draw in golf. The linesman got it wrong, one of those strokes of luck that turned the game on it's head.
Pogba didn't have a good game, he was woeful bar that one moment of magic. I think I covered more ground around Tesco tonight than he did on the pitch. Rashford literally did more in 30 minutes than Pogba has all season. Even Mata came on and made more passes and key passes. I don't hate Utd, I'm a total neutral when it comes to the PL, I just enjoy watching sides who play good football with likable players who give 100%. I find a number of your players very easy to dislike, while Ole is an Alan Partridge like parody of Ferguson. All that's missing is the Castrol GTX jacket
A contradiction if ever I saw one. If the ball was so clearly out of play why would any proof be needed? I watched the game, and then the highlights last night, and from the camera angle it was absolutely impossible to say one way or another.
What I will say is that the incident was yet another abuse of VAR, which is supposed to be deployed to review a clear and obvious error. This was neither.
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VAR can’t review it as it is not part of their remit.?
It wasn’t so much as was it in or out of play, it’s more the fact the lino turned his back on it and ran down the line, he should of watched the flight of the ball and let VAR review an offside decision if required.
That way there’d be no discussion as he would of made a call on what he’d seen.
VAR can’t review it as it is not part of their remit.?
But they did.
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On 5 Live last night they said VAR had looked at the build up and couldn’t determine if the ball had or had not crossed the line completely as there is no side line technology, therefore they couldn’t over turn the goal.
So yes, apologies from the fact they did look at it.
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VAR can’t review it as it is not part of their remit.?
It wasn’t so much as was it in or out of play, it’s more the fact the lino turned his back on it and ran down the line, he should of watched the flight of the ball and let VAR review an offside decision if required.
That way there’d be no discussion as he would of made a call on what he’d seen.
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/eng...he-premier-league-all-your-questions-answered
Can a goal be disallowed for an offence in the build-up?
Offside and fouls by an attacking player will be checked and an offence may see the goal ruled out and a free kick awarded to the defending team. The VAR can also check for ball out of play.
Although how on earth would they even check on last night. Even replies weren't conclusive
Right call given if they can't clearly see one way or other
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9625785/var-premier-league-rules-2019-20-video-referee/amp/
The technology cannot be used to advise on:
- yellow cards, including second yellows
- potential fouls in ordinary open play
- to decide on corner or throw-in awards.
A ball in or out of play is quite easy, hawkeye, Tennis etc. But the cost to do it for sidelines in football would be too much and that’s why the lino should of done his job.
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Whilst I agree that's confusing that bit is to state which way a throw in or corner goes rather than in or out of play
Hawkeye may work but would it at that height? It was impossible to tell
Few west ham fans have been like Arthur left pitch to get ball for throw etc .. yes footballers the pillars of honestly and not appealing for something that's not there
I couldn't tell at the time nor with replays
Good goal aswell
