clubchamp98
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Kyle Walker what was that.
clubchamp98
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Unfortunately that’s right.
But they can do both ,most of the time.
Foxholer
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Given that 'the operators' are qualified referees, I'd suggest that it's the tech that needs improvement. Hardly surprising - at least not to me -given the short time it has been in use.
Foxholer
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Have you considered taking up Referee-ing?
I agree but you compared the tech in tennis to football and I don't think that works. You can compare goal line tech to tennis but not offsides.
Foxholer
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As I bemoaned earlier...I witnessed one of the 'NOT most of the time' matches involving the club I support! But hey; 'we' are still in a CL position (not that I expect - though would love to see - we'll be there at season end)!
Jimaroid
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There’s an overview of upcoming VAR tech here: https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-fi...fside-why-arsene-wenger-thinks-it-can-fix-var
I‘m familiar with that type of skeletal tracking as it’s used in film vfx and video games. It’s certainly feasible they could make it an instant decision using it. Probably won’t make referees on the pitch any better though.
I‘m familiar with that type of skeletal tracking as it’s used in film vfx and video games. It’s certainly feasible they could make it an instant decision using it. Probably won’t make referees on the pitch any better though.
Foxholer
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Agreed! Precisely because it's 'different' tech - and not necessarily relevant to ALL sports!
But there's still plenty of incentive for techies to come up with 'better' tech! Single (supposedly) frame analysis is definitely 'limited' by fps (and always will be).
However...Without having any corroborating stats, it's my view that the vast majority of criticism of VAR are by fans of teams that have been 'penalised' by VAR decisions!
Foxholer
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The question should be...Will it make offside decisions more accurate (and quicker). And that sort of tech is exactly the sort of development I inferred would be a logical improvement on what is currently in use.There’s an overview of upcoming VAR tech here: https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-fi...fside-why-arsene-wenger-thinks-it-can-fix-var
I‘m familiar with that type of skeletal tracking as it’s used in film vfx and video games. It’s certainly feasible they could make it an instant decision using it. Probably won’t make referees on the pitch any better though.
Still won't satisfy the entrenched anti-tech attitudes of some though!
Foxholer
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I Umpired Hockey to a fairly high standard many years ago (couple of International games and several National (equiv to County) Tournaments. I also played, though only to (equiv of) County 'B' level.
There's a completely different mindset about/between playing and Referee/Umpire-ing - mainly in attitude to 'applying the rules'. The 'attraction' is actually being able to watch, close-up, players doing amazing things at their chosen sport and, hopefully' contributing to many folks's enjoyment of the spectacle! There should also be a similar amount of 'pride' of 'doing your job well' too, just as players should exhibit.
Swango1980
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No offside in hockey though, easy
Foxholer
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There was when I was umpiring!No offside in hockey though, easy
Oddly enough though...
The majority of current rules that have changed since then are pretty much exactly what the/my County Coach (still, at 15, the youngest NZ Hockey Olympian - and a Gold Medallist in 1976) proposed when he harangued me about 'game-killing' rules on the 4.5+ hour boat trip home from an annual Wellington v Canterbury match! Corners - gone (replaced)! Offside - gone! Obstruction - reinterpreted as he proposed! Free Hits having to be on breach spot - gone! Has made the game much faster more skillful.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
if you want to see the worst var decision ever its to not overturn the porto red card in the CL
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Unsubstantiated rumours that there will be an outbreak of football in the WWE bout between Porto and Atletico Madrid.
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
Real Knockout punch. Did well not to be stretchered off!!!
4LEX
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Atletico are a vile bunch of thugs and cheats. VAR working well again not to bothered to step in for the clearly wrong red card to Wendell.
Foxholer
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Also worth a watch...
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
I think we need a separate hockey thread.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Is that the Wendell that aimed an elbow at the opponent’s throat or another Wendell? The first red card was a bit OTT, but once the bar had been set there Wendell always had to go.
4LEX
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The first red was deserved, the second red was a yellow all day long. Porto got bought down to Atletico's level and lost on experience.
