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A lot of money pished up against the wall.

Upsetting the squad?? Suarez carried that side for 2 seasons and by all accounts he was well respected by the squad. Anyway the point stands, Rodgers and the transfer committee wasted money.

Since klopp came I think theres only 3 players left of Rodgers squad. Henderson,Milner, Origi.

Moreno,Lallana and Lovren rarely featured, Origi doesnt get much time neither.

Rodgers top 4 finishes allowed foundations to be set. Tough to say that without Can, Lallana, Lovren and others from Rodgers era they'd have finished 4th and things take that bit longer to happen without Champions League money.

My point on Suarez is that once he knew Barca were in for him and he wanted to leave, then no point keeping a potentially unhappy player. Especially a mercenary like Suarez.
 

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Lallana was really good for Liverpool, and Emre and Origi were good signings at those prices as well. The others, not so much.
 

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I don't know if he's better than Gaza, but the competition could do both of them a bit of good anyway. Never hurts as a bit of a kick up the arse - a Prem winning goalie coming into the club.

The rise and fall of Joe Hart so quickly is shocking

He has become a terrible keeper..watch out for shots low left of him he will do the bunny hop and miss them. However I feel for him. Really used to rate him.

I wonder if pep hadn't destroyed him he may have gone back to city now as 3rd choice as they are throwing money at HG Players

He will do a job and enable you to get more over sea players in but he won't push the top 2
 

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The rise and fall of Joe Hart so quickly is shocking

He has become a terrible keeper..watch out for shots low left of him he will do the bunny hop and miss them. However I feel for him. Really used to rate him.

I wonder if pep hadn't destroyed him he may have gone back to city now as 3rd choice as they are throwing money at HG Players

He will do a job and enable you to get more over sea players in but he won't push the top 2
I don't expect him to play much, if at all. I'm just saying more competition is never bad - he'll push them a touch more than Vorm did in his last season. And having a Premier League winner in the dressing room or the training ground can't be bad. As I said, it's a no-brainer for us, but I'm more confused about why he didn't want to go somewhere where he'd start. I suppose that's Championship now though, or at least relegation end of the Prem.
 

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I don't expect him to play much, if at all. I'm just saying more competition is never bad - he'll push them a touch more than Vorm did in his last season. And having a Premier League winner in the dressing room or the training ground can't be bad. As I said, it's a no-brainer for us, but I'm more confused about why he didn't want to go somewhere where he'd start. I suppose that's Championship now though, or at least relegation end of the Prem.

His drive must be shot now

He didn't push pope at Burnley

He looked terrible for us

He could have done a job in a championship club and rebuilt himself like Foster and Carson did

But I think he just happy to play fiddle now
 

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Not premier league, but Koeman’s agent has done a cracking job getting him in at Barca hasn’t he?
By all accounts he will be there a year, presidential elections will happen and he will be out. He has a 2 yr deal, he will be nicely paid off. His job will be to make unpopular decisions, get rid of some established but declining players. In effect he is a well paid fall guy.

If he does well he will see out both years. If the job is as tough as it looks he will leave undamaged after one and much wealthier.
 

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Not premier league, but Koeman’s agent has done a cracking job getting him in at Barca hasn’t he?

A dream job for him, absolutely. Without the playing/coaching connection there he never gets the job based on his management CV IMO. As far as I can see, he took his dream job at the only point he was going to get the offer - a declining, ageing squad that needs a serious overhaul, with a Barcelona who are essentially broke and need to sell to buy.

As LT says, paid to be the fall guy.
 

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Now this thread can properly begin :D. Opening weekend fixtures.

Let's hope we see the transfer market really begin now, it adds some fun to things.

Saturday 12 September:


  • Crystal Palace v Southampton
  • Fulham v Arsenal
  • Liverpool v Leeds United
  • Tottenham Hotspur v Everton
  • West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City
  • West Ham United v Newcastle United
Monday 14 September:


  • Brighton v Chelsea
  • Sheffield United v Wolves
Fixtures to be rescheduled:


  • Burnley v Manchester United
  • Manchester City v Aston Villa

(@Paperboy do you think I got away with this? :LOL:)
 

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Now this thread can properly begin :D. Opening weekend fixtures.

Let's hope we see the transfer market really begin now, it adds some fun to things.

Saturday 12 September:


  • Crystal Palace v Southampton
  • Fulham v Arsenal
  • Liverpool v Leeds United
  • Tottenham Hotspur v Everton
  • West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City
  • West Ham United v Newcastle United
Monday 14 September:


  • Brighton v Chelsea
  • Sheffield United v Wolves
Fixtures to be rescheduled:


  • Burnley v Manchester United
  • Manchester City v Aston Villa

(@Paperboy do you think I got away with this? :LOL:)

How hard would it have been for us and Chelsea to play the two Manchester clubs so we can get more rest? Instead, Burnley and Villa get an extra week on everyone for no reason.
 

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How hard would it have been for us and Chelsea to play the two Manchester clubs so we can get more rest? Instead, Burnley and Villa get an extra week on everyone for no reason.

Or just a Manchester derby as they’re the only two teams that officially need a break. of course that would negate the “randomness” of the draw......
 

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not sure that would be desired by too many with manchester supposedly under stricter lock down currently

True, but they're gonna play at some point and covid isn't going anywhere. If the fans can't stay on then they'll just case themselves stricfer lockdown later.....
 

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Or just a Manchester derby as they’re the only two teams that officially need a break. of course that would negate the “randomness” of the draw......
I read a piece on how the fixtures are created a few years ago. There are many factors added into the mix meaning it is not really that random, I suspect your quote marks mean you probably know this. It does mean though that these things really should be simple to manipulate and resolve. Don't know why not in this instance.
 

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I read a piece on how the fixtures are created a few years ago. There are many factors added into the mix meaning it is not really that random, I suspect your quote marks mean you probably know this. It does mean though that these things really should be simple to manipulate and resolve. Don't know why not in this instance.

Yeah that was my point. It amazes me how bank holidays and Xmas/Easter always seem to throw up a super Sunday.......

Think Wolves need one too surely. Started before both and only ended a week before them.
Harsh as it is, your start date is irrelevant. You’ll know better than me, but did you play as many friendlies as usual Pre season, or use Europa as warm ups? The truth is that Without covid all teams would be starting the same time this year. it’s only clubs Who’s seasons have been extended due to covid that are starting later. A cut off point was made and only City and UtD went past it. Many years the top clubs will play many more games than the mid table teams yet they don’t get a later start.

edit to say. Saints first Pre season game 14th July. Wolves was 17th.
both played 5 games prior to their first PL.

so no real difference unless you consider crusaders and Pyunik tough tests.......
 
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Cracking 70's style cracker with Liverpool at home to Liverpool. Can imagine Giles and Bremner going at it with Keegan et al. Shame the modern game would mean it would be abandoned after 10 minutes these days

Impossible Homer ??
 
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