The Footie Thread

[Lord Tyrion]

They should be thinking more about players a bit past their prime who want a last payday. Lingard, Kane etc. Gotta love the Toon army, there was some bloke on TS yesterday saying they should get Kevin Keegan back! ???

This doesn’t look good though….

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....remier-league-newcastle-takeover-25161856.amp

I mean Gold and Sullivan are sleezy, good for nothing, porn peddlers but I don’t think Amnesty were warning the Prem about them!

I suspect that is exactly who they will go for, not Kane mind, not for another couple of years. They can't offer the top guys trophies or Europe at this stage so they will have to go to the rung below. The good news is that quite a few big clubs in Europe are in a financial mess, some English clubs have bloated squads, so players are available if you have the money and they certainly have that now.

I'm not sure the PL will be worrying about what Amnesty say. To the PL it's business, nothing more.

Kev, bless him. I'm amazed they don't have a statue of him already. They have one of Bobby Robson, Alan Shearer but not Kev. He is still god like up here.

 

[Tashyboy]

Anyway seen as we have done the “Newcastle are now run by odious owners” bit. Back to Football.

Where do Newcastle go from here to get to the top table. If the City way is the route. The most important thing was getting the back room staff to set out a business plan. city moulded there plan on how Barcelona was run.They brought in Ferano Soriano and a few others. The long term goal was getting in Pep. Short term I would think Newcastle need to have something like that as a foundation. The biggest thing re the team, who is going to manage them, who is going to be convinced to go to manage at the moment a mediocre team. Failing that, would you trust Steve Bruce with hundreds of millions.. Next the players. The ones that can play to a good standard in the Prem league for the next 2-3 years they need to keep. I have a feeling that could be half a dozen players at most. There is going to be a lot of comings and going’s.
Personally I think Newcastle fans are not going to know what has hit them Over the next few years.??

 

[Neilds]

I suspect that is exactly who they will go for, not Kane mind, not for another couple of years. They can't offer the top guys trophies or Europe at this stage so they will have to go to the rung below. The good news is that quite a few big clubs in Europe are in a financial mess, some English clubs have bloated squads, so players are available if you have the money and they certainly have that now.

I'm not sure the PL will be worrying about what Amnesty say. To the PL it's business, nothing more.

Kev, bless him. I'm amazed they don't have a statue of him already. They have one of Bobby Robson, Alan Shearer but not Kev. He is still god like up here.

I think the trouble may be is that, by the time the transfer window opens in January, it may be too late for the rest of the season. People forget that Newcastle haven't won yet this season and they can't bring in anyone new for a few months yet. Will big names want to come in and join a relegation dogfight and then face a new season in the Championship? It has been shown many a time that big names don't always help when you are scrapping for every point at the bottom.

 

[BiMGuy]

I see what you did. Thanks.

I guess that I just lump every variation of football together, i.e.,
all sports that I definitely don't like as much as baseball as of right now after the trauma I've recently experienced..

Not really on subject, but I do have a question or two.
I've seen thug characters in UK movies wielding baseball bats.
Are baseball bats readily available in the UK?
Are they sold primarily as weapons?
Is it in order to not desecrate Cricket bats by using them for criminal activity? Would that offend the Indian population?
Should I bring a few bats across the next time that I visit? Wooden [professional} or aluminum [recreational]?

Elsewhere in Europe, for reasons I cannot fathom, the US has military bases. Baseball is actually played near them.
We have no bases in the UK, obviously. Hamburger joints, yes, but not military bases. Does anybody play baseball there?

And with these simple questions asked, I will no longer hijack the thread. Sorry.

There are plenty of thug characters in US tv that carry a baseball bat. See Negan and Harley Quinn.

The US has quite a few military bases in the UK. I've been on at least 1 with a baseball wicket.

Baseball isn't popular in the UK, as we already have terminally dull games that involve standing in a field while players try to hit a ball someone has thrown at them with a stick.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

They should be thinking more about players a bit past their prime who want a last payday. Lingard, Kane etc. Gotta love the Toon army, there was some bloke on TS yesterday saying they should get Kevin Keegan back! ???

This doesn’t look good though….

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....remier-league-newcastle-takeover-25161856.amp

I mean Gold and Sullivan are sleezy, good for nothing, porn peddlers but I don’t think Amnesty were warning the Prem about them!

Where is the fuss from Amnesty International about Man Utd’s 11yr deal with the Saudi regime?

Really think they need to sort themselves out before trying to tell the PL how they should and should not conduct business.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...tional-has-toxic-working-culture-report-finds

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/2020/amnesty-international-questions

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Let's have a bit of fun with the Toon's new wealth. Looking at that team only Saint Maximim is worth a place so let's fill the team with players who are currently on the fringes of their current team but are better than currently at St James

Henderson (Man Utd GK)

Loftus Cheek (Chelsea)
Winks (Spurs)
Lingard (M. Utd)
Coutinho (Barcelona)
Isco (R.Madrid)

Any defenders kicking around? A goalscorer gathering dust?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Anyway seen as we have done the “Newcastle are now run by odious owners” bit. Back to Football.

Where do Newcastle go from here to get to the top table. If the City way is the route. The most important thing was getting the back room staff to set out a business plan. city moulded there plan on how Barcelona was run.They brought in Ferano Soriano and a few others. The long term goal was getting in Pep. Short term I would think Newcastle need to have something like that as a foundation. The biggest thing re the team, who is going to manage them, who is going to be convinced to go to manage at the moment a mediocre team. Failing that, would you trust Steve Bruce with hundreds of millions.. Next the players. The ones that can play to a good standard in the Prem league for the next 2-3 years they need to keep. I have a feeling that could be half a dozen players at most. There is going to be a lot of comings and going’s.
Personally I think Newcastle fans are not going to know what has hit them Over the next few years.??

The plan this season has to be PL survival.

Jan maybe too late to bring the really big names in, plus they won’t be able to tempt them with Championship football a likely outcome.

 

[Beezerk]

I think the trouble may be is that, by the time the transfer window opens in January, it may be too late for the rest of the season. People forget that Newcastle haven't won yet this season and they can't bring in anyone new for a few months yet. Will big names want to come in and join a relegation dogfight and then face a new season in the Championship? It has been shown many a time that big names don't always help when you are scrapping for every point at the bottom.

Can't you get loan signings outside the transfer window? Sure I could Google it but I can't be bothered ?

 

[Fade and Die]

Where is the fuss from Amnesty International about Man Utd’s 11yr deal with the Saudi regime?

Really think they need to sort themselves out before trying to tell the PL how they should and should not conduct business.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...tional-has-toxic-working-culture-report-finds

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/2020/amnesty-international-questions

Does seem strangely absent! I had a quick google and they have condemned Man City and now Newcastle but not a peep about Man U. ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Can't you get loan signings outside the transfer window? Sure I could Google it but I can't be bothered ?

I'm bored this morning

- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club.

I don't know if they have anyone on loan right now so this is an avenue for them

 

[fundy]

Let's have a bit of fun with the Toon's new wealth. Looking at that team only Saint Maximim is worth a place so let's fill the team with players who are currently on the fringes of their current team but are better than currently at St James

Henderson (Man Utd GK)

Loftus Cheek (Chelsea)
Winks (Spurs)
Lingard (M. Utd)
Coutinho (Barcelona)
Isco (R.Madrid)

Any defenders kicking around? A goalscorer gathering dust?

how do you write this list and have Winks second outfield player on it. LT for Toon manager

 

[Neilds]

Can't you get loan signings outside the transfer window? Sure I could Google it but I can't be bothered ?

Done the hard work for you
Couldn't see anything about windows but PL clubs can only have 2 loan players at any one time and a max of 4 in a season. They have 1 one loan (Munoz) but he doesn't appear to be in squad so not sure what the rules are with him.

Edit: Beaten by LT -he must have less work on than me!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Does seem strangely absent! I had a quick google and they have condemned Man City and now Newcastle but not a peep about Man U. ?

Exactly, and it’s not as if it’s been kept quiet, that deal has been in place since 2010.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Can't you get loan signings outside the transfer window? Sure I could Google it but I can't be bothered ?

Are you allowed to sign Players who are out of contract or are not signed with anyone?

 

[Neilds]

Are you allowed to sign Players who are out of contract or are not signed with anyone?

Yes, unattached players can be signed at any time but not sure there would be many 'top' players who were in this category

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Done the hard work for you
Couldn't see anything about windows but PL clubs can only have 2 loan players at any one time and a max of 4 in a season. They have 1 one loan (Munoz) but he doesn't appear to be in squad so not sure what the rules are with him.

Edit: Beaten by LT -he must have less work on than me!

It's a Friday, I'm knocking off early anyway. I'm treading water here until 12

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yes, unattached players can be signed at any time but not sure there would be many 'top' players who were in this category

I was wondering if there might be any in the short term to help strengthen this season. ??

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Do Newcastle have a women’s team? What’s their take on it?

They do have a team but they are in the lower levels of womens football. The reality is they are entirely dependent on the main club. If they don't like the new owners then they are free to move but I'd be surprised if many do.

Alternatively, the new owners may put lots of money into the ladies team, upgrade them from their current status and improve their lot. If I was a female player at Newcastle right now I would be seeing opportunities opening and think I was in exactly the right place.

I know you are wanting a moral stance on this but in sport we have a way of separating sport and politics when it suits. Let's face it, golf is one of the worst for this. Is there any country with a questionable record that doesn't hold a tournament, male or female? The LET are back in Saudi next month for example, 3rd year in a row I think

 

[Beezerk]

I was wondering if there might be any in the short term to help strengthen this season. ??

I'd be surprised if the new regime haven’t already got some players tapped up or a pre prepared list of players to approach. No serious buyer would go into this without some form of game plan already in place.
I've been winding up my Geordie mates how I'd love it if they got relegated this season ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

how do you write this list and have Winks second outfield player on it. LT for Toon manager

GK always comes first. After that it was just players who came to mind, no order.

I actually don't know that much about Winks but he isn't getting a game at Spurs and Everton keep being linked with him. Sounds like someone who Newcastle could pick up quite easily and it would be a good move for him. For any player on the fringes right now, who wouldn't want to join this ride. They have seen how it worked at City.

I'd take the job, mainly because it is hugely profitable no matter how rubbish you are. 3 year contract £5m p/a sounds about right. 8 months in, I get the boot with a big pay off . I'd get to play in the all the charity days at Close House for free as well. Win, win