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But you see that’s the point, I recognise the irony. it Has happened for years, but now it’s more of an issue coz it’s City.

Yeah you’re right it has gone on for years but I’m not seeing your point that it’s a bigger issue because it’s city?

I think Chelsea caught more flack than you guys ?‍♂️ Rightly so as well ??
 

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Picking up on just this bit of your post I'd say that for the neutral it has been one of the most disappointing PL seasons ever. The title was pretty much wrapped up several weeks ago. The bottom three has been almost certain for a while, even if Fulham did try to make it interesting with a couple of results. To me the best seasons are the ones where you go in to the last day with the league title on the line or with 2/3 clubs needing a result to avoid relegation. This season has just been a bit "meh" with no real interest from middle of April onward.

I would love someone to sum up this season, looking at ( in no order) Leicester,Chelsea, villa, Everton, west ham,Spurs, Liverpool all looked like they would finish top four. Liverpool looked like they could win back to back titles, then looked like they would not get European football,Now look like getting top four. Totally agree re last day title races but it’s only nice as a non neutral if you win it.

Ave just read this and no one has said owt. For all City’s attacking prowess a defender wins it and over 50% of the vote goes to Citys players.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57183550
 
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There’s no way am reading through the last five pages of where Kane is going.But a few observations..

Aguero is leaving.
City need a striker.
Jesus is not Aguero.
City are linked with Haaland,Mbappe,Ings, Kane.
Kane says he is leaving.
2 and 2 don’t always make 4.
City are miles ahead of everyone else.

Theres so much being said, a lot of what is hearsay, the latest being that Levy at Spuds has said “ we have taken our eye of the team whilst building the stadium”. Hmm didn’t that happen at Arsenal.
The bottom line Harry Kane is in danger of turning Alan Shearer in to the second best highest scoring striker that won hardly anything. One bought prem trophy at Blackburn. Shearer went to his home town club Newcastle. Kane has done it the other way round. As it stands Kane could be the highest scoring prem league player that has an empty trophy cabinet. How’s that right. It’s not as if you can say he stayed at Spurs for the money.
So do all rds leave to City, ?. Ave enjoyed this season as a neutral. theres been some right shocking results. It’s been ace. But City streets ahead. Yeah only coz the also runs have been shocking. Not coz City have been brilliant. City money should not mask the rubbish football that has been played at times by Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Everton, and Spurs. Yet the also rans eg,Villa, West Ham, Everton, Leicester have all been knocking on the door or top four and again have fell away. That’s the football mentioned and we have not even got onto the point of how poor some of these clubs are run Arsenal, Spurs and Utd spring to mind not forgetting Newcastle’s long suffering fans.
Ave a feeling this transfer window is gonna be interesting
Re the bit in bold, I don’t know if you’re being ironic or not.?‍♂️
 

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There’s no way am reading through the last five pages of where Kane is going.But a few observations..

Aguero is leaving.
City need a striker.
Jesus is not Aguero.
City are linked with Haaland,Mbappe,Ings, Kane.
Kane says he is leaving.
2 and 2 don’t always make 4.
City are miles ahead of everyone else.

Theres so much being said, a lot of what is hearsay, the latest being that Levy at Spuds has said “ we have taken our eye of the team whilst building the stadium”. Hmm didn’t that happen at Arsenal.
The bottom line Harry Kane is in danger of turning Alan Shearer in to the second best highest scoring striker that won hardly anything. One bought prem trophy at Blackburn. Shearer went to his home town club Newcastle. Kane has done it the other way round. As it stands Kane could be the highest scoring prem league player that has an empty trophy cabinet. How’s that right. It’s not as if you can say he stayed at Spurs for the money.
So do all rds leave to City, ?. Ave enjoyed this season as a neutral. theres been some right shocking results. It’s been ace. But City streets ahead. Yeah only coz the also runs have been shocking. Not coz City have been brilliant. City money should not mask the rubbish football that has been played at times by Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Everton, and Spurs. Yet the also rans eg,Villa, West Ham, Everton, Leicester have all been knocking on the door or top four and again have fell away. That’s the football mentioned and we have not even got onto the point of how poor some of these clubs are run Arsenal, Spurs and Utd spring to mind not forgetting Newcastle’s long suffering fans.
Ave a feeling this transfer window is gonna be interesting
Your streak of wins mid season won you the title.
But some of the wins were not exactly great to watch.
But the table dosnt lie and City are champions.
As for Dias that was your main problem and Pep has sorted it so he deserves the accolade.
Thought it was Foden personally .
 
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There’s no way am reading through the last five pages of where Kane is going.But a few observations..

Aguero is leaving.
City need a striker.
Jesus is not Aguero.
City are linked with Haaland,Mbappe,Ings, Kane.
Kane says he is leaving.
2 and 2 don’t always make 4.
City are miles ahead of everyone else.

Theres so much being said, a lot of what is hearsay, the latest being that Levy at Spuds has said “ we have taken our eye of the team whilst building the stadium”. Hmm didn’t that happen at Arsenal.
The bottom line Harry Kane is in danger of turning Alan Shearer in to the second best highest scoring striker that won hardly anything. One bought prem trophy at Blackburn. Shearer went to his home town club Newcastle. Kane has done it the other way round. As it stands Kane could be the highest scoring prem league player that has an empty trophy cabinet. How’s that right. It’s not as if you can say he stayed at Spurs for the money.
So do all rds leave to City, ?. Ave enjoyed this season as a neutral. theres been some right shocking results. It’s been ace. But City streets ahead. Yeah only coz the also runs have been shocking. Not coz City have been brilliant. City money should not mask the rubbish football that has been played at times by Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Everton, and Spurs. Yet the also rans eg,Villa, West Ham, Everton, Leicester have all been knocking on the door or top four and again have fell away. That’s the football mentioned and we have not even got onto the point of how poor some of these clubs are run Arsenal, Spurs and Utd spring to mind not forgetting Newcastle’s long suffering fans.
Ave a feeling this transfer window is gonna be interesting

Is there some smileys missing from the post ? ?‍♂️

One bought trophy ? If Blackburn’s Prem a bought trophy isn’t any trophy won by City bought ??‍♂️

And talking about enjoying the season as a neutral ? You aren’t a neutral

And Kane at Spurs has been very well financially rewarded for his stay at Spurs -

“also rans” - I guess that’s not the phrase you wanted to use as it comes out as arrogance towards all the other teams

This transfer window should be quite low because of the money lost in the pandemic - with many clubs losing £80mil plus its going to be only interesting how clubs will balance the books , if Kane is bought for £100mil then some balancing will need to be done or clever financially bookkeeping again

Overall this season has been flat as a pancake - the FA Cup final was the one bit of drama , City with their squad were able to cope better than anyone with the make up of the season but they didn’t blow teams away like Liverpool and City have done in the previous seasons.
 

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sorry but results are all that matters

If Spurs were battling for the title or CL place then they wouldn’t be booing - they started booing last night as soon as the team started losing , they were very cheerful when Spurs went ahead

Spurs fans expect the team to be doing better on the pitch , they expect the team to be better and getting better results

I think the Kane going story had put a massive downer on the club, added to lack of investment in the squad at a crucial time a few years ago and the first time in eons that they could let the power brokers know their feelings, it was a toxic mix. What was going on on the pitch made a difference, but it wasnt the whole story.

If Newcastle fans campaign against Ashley, even if they're 3 up, you have to look at the bigger picture, not just that day's result.
 

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I think the Kane going story had put a massive downer on the club, added to lack of investment in the squad at a crucial time a few years ago and the first time in eons that they could let the power brokers know their feelings, it was a toxic mix. What was going on on the pitch made a difference, but it wasnt the whole story.

If Newcastle fans campaign against Ashley, even if they're 3 up, you have to look at the bigger picture, not just that day's result.


yeah not sure it will be all sweetness and light at Arsenal Sunday, actually hope it isnt tbh
 

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There’s no way am reading through the last five pages of where Kane is going.But a few observations..

Aguero is leaving.
City need a striker.
Jesus is not Aguero.
City are linked with Haaland,Mbappe,Ings, Kane.
Kane says he is leaving.
2 and 2 don’t always make 4.
City are miles ahead of everyone else.

Theres so much being said, a lot of what is hearsay, the latest being that Levy at Spuds has said “ we have taken our eye of the team whilst building the stadium”. Hmm didn’t that happen at Arsenal.
The bottom line Harry Kane is in danger of turning Alan Shearer in to the second best highest scoring striker that won hardly anything. One bought prem trophy at Blackburn. Shearer went to his home town club Newcastle. Kane has done it the other way round. As it stands Kane could be the highest scoring prem league player that has an empty trophy cabinet. How’s that right. It’s not as if you can say he stayed at Spurs for the money.
So do all rds leave to City, ?. Ave enjoyed this season as a neutral. theres been some right shocking results. It’s been ace. But City streets ahead. Yeah only coz the also runs have been shocking. Not coz City have been brilliant. City money should not mask the rubbish football that has been played at times by Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Everton, and Spurs. Yet the also rans eg,Villa, West Ham, Everton, Leicester have all been knocking on the door or top four and again have fell away. That’s the football mentioned and we have not even got onto the point of how poor some of these clubs are run Arsenal, Spurs and Utd spring to mind not forgetting Newcastle’s long suffering fans.
Ave a feeling this transfer window is gonna be interesting

You should be called Toshy, not tashy.

A squad of 25+ 50 million plus players can mask everything. City also played some rubbish at the beginning of the season, as well, but a massive squad of top class players supplied by sports washing countries triumphs over all, most of the time, thankfully not all.
 

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yeah not sure it will be all sweetness and light at Arsenal Sunday, actually hope it isnt tbh

Yep, the matchgoers do look a bit more to the future of the club,as they spend a lot of their hard earned on it, so if you see a massive lack of investment in the club or squad and you start thinking "where's my money going, and will I have to put up with this rubbish for 4-5 years", you are going to react and demand more, or change.
 

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Yep, the matchgoers do look a bit more to the future of the club,as they spend a lot of their hard earned on it, so if you see a massive lack of investment in the club or squad and you start thinking "where's my money going, and will I have to put up with this rubbish for 4-5 years", you are going to react and demand more, or change.


Thats why I stopped going, did it for many years, home and away and Europe but became clear football was becoming far too much about money, tv and not the "fans". Put that into context I went to Highbury 300+ times, have never been to the Emirates! Decided enough was enough and never gone back
 

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Thats why I stopped going, did it for many years, home and away and Europe but became clear football was becoming far too much about money, tv and not the "fans". Put that into context I went to Highbury 300+ times, have never been to the Emirates! Decided enough was enough and never gone back

Even though I still do the homes, I know where you're coming from. It's not the game I fell in love with as a kid.

Loved Highbury, btw.

Proper stadium, 2 big ends, good atmosphere, been in there when it was still 60,000, and also went there for the full members cup (was it?) game, where there were decidedly a lot less in.

I somehow managed to bunk in past the commissionaires in the main stand entrance, went past the Herbert Chapman bust, up the stairs then didnt know where to go, so bunked back out into the street as had bought a ticket also. I still havent been the emirates yet though, either.:)
 
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Even though I still do the homes, I know where you're coming from. It's not the game I fell in love with as a kid.

Loved Highbury, btw.

Proper stadium, 2 big ends, good atmosphere, been in there when it was still 60,000, and also went there for the full members cup (was it) game, where there were decidedly a lot less.

I somehow managed to bunk in past the commissionaires in the main stand entrance, went past the Herbert Chapman bust, up the stairs then didnt know where to go, so bunked back out into the street as had bought a ticket also. I still havent been the emirates yet though, either.:)


55,000 for a league cup semi final against spurs and 15,000 still outside in the mid 80s, they were the days (some will tell me i was a decade or two too late) :) i guess we all age and are "from a generation" but give me the old school grounds rather than the new stadia in the main. maine road, roker park, ayresome park, baseball ground, upton park etc, a bit of character rather than the soulless concrete mega structures you get now. if i could go to any game currently Id probably do everton away to make some noise in the creaking wooden away end :)
 

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55,000 for a league cup semi final against spurs and 15,000 still outside in the mid 80s, they were the days (some will tell me i was a decade or two too late) :) i guess we all age and are "from a generation" but give me the old school grounds rather than the new stadia in the main. maine road, roker park, ayresome park, baseball ground, upton park etc, a bit of character rather than the soulless concrete mega structures you get now. if i could go to any game currently Id probably do everton away to make some noise in the creaking wooden away end :)

Amen to that.

No matter our rivalry, Goodison is a cracking away match when the home crowd are up for it (obviously against us they always are), and when they score the noise is amazing.
With 3 of the stands having close, low overhangs it creates a right racket, and think they used a special amplifying wood in the construction (I may have made that last bit up).:D

Derby was a cracking old stand that they used to give you two tiers of, and always liked Villa, Coventry as an away match. I only done London, Norwich, Ipswich, Soton, Pompey a few times in the 80's or 90's but once we were back in Europe kept my money for European games, but went to the NW, Midlands, NE and any new grounds all the time. I keep saying I should go and watch the likes of rochdale, macclesfield and any other grounds I havent been to, only need about 22-24 to do "a 92". I've did the odd one over the years if away on business or on hols so have gone to Exeter city vs Ipswich in an early league cup round with the missus, to get another ground in, etc.

Upton park when Ince got a hat-trick was loud and lively, Millwall twice at the old den, winning the league at Chelsea in 86 etc, brilliant memories over the years, but also loved going to a Walsall on a cold December night and everything inbetween.
 

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Just an observation about the Kane / Shearer trophy analogy. Dig up any interview you like from history or recent times, Shearer has no regrets. Not one. He doesn't say it through gritted teeth, he means it. He would have liked to have won more trophies but I have no doubt that he wouldn't swap his life if he had it again. Trophies aren't everything.
 

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Just an observation about the Kane / Shearer trophy analogy. Dig up any interview you like from history or recent times, Shearer has no regrets. Not one. He doesn't say it through gritted teeth, he means it. He would have liked to have won more trophies but I have no doubt that he wouldn't swap his life if he had it again. Trophies aren't everything.

Shearer went to play for his boyhood club tho

Whilst kane loves spurs now they aren't his boyhood club

Plus how easy is it to say when you win a premier League then do it
 

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Amen to that.

No matter our rivalry, Goodison is a cracking away match when the home crowd are up for it (obviously against us they always are), and when they score the noise is amazing.
With 3 of the stands having close, low overhangs it creates a right racket, and think they used a special amplifying wood in the construction (I may have made that last bit up).:D

Derby was a cracking old stand that they used to give you two tiers of, and always liked Villa, Coventry as an away match. I only done London, Norwich, Ipswich, Soton, Pompey a few times in the 80's or 90's but once we were back in Europe kept my money for European games, but went to the NW, Midlands, NE and any new grounds all the time. I keep saying I should go and watch the likes of rochdale, macclesfield and any other grounds I havent been to, only need about 22-24 to do "a 92". I've did the odd one over the years if away on business or on hols so have gone to Exeter city vs Ipswich in an early league cup round with the missus, to get another ground in, etc.

Upton park when Ince got a hat-trick was loud and lively, Millwall twice at the old den, winning the league at Chelsea in 86 etc, brilliant memories over the years, but also loved going to a Walsall on a cold December night and everything inbetween.

Never did the old Den but been to thenew a couple of times, nowhere near as scary as they like to make it out to be, although the Millwall roar is impressive when they get it going. Goodison is a cracking away. St James Park is another decent day out, although take some binos and a warm coat! Pompey was a bit meh (until we scored, then it was proper limbs;)), Ninian Park was probably the most intimidated I've been at a football match, the new ground isn't a patch on it
 

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Never did the old Den but been to thenew a couple of times, nowhere near as scary as they like to make it out to be, although the Millwall roar is impressive when they get it going. Goodison is a cracking away. St James Park is another decent day out, although take some binos and a warm coat! Pompey was a bit meh (until we scored, then it was proper limbs;)), Ninian Park was probably the most intimidated I've been at a football match, the new ground isn't a patch on it

I always enjoyed the trips to the midlands, The Hawthorns, St Andrew’s, Molineux (even though 2 sides of the ground were closed!) Always a good day out, grounds I really didn’t like with shallow terracing and no roof were Swindon, Barnsley (never been so cold) Oldham and Chelsea. You could sing till you were hoarse and never get an atmosphere going!
 

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Shearer went to play for his boyhood club tho

Whilst kane loves spurs now they aren't his boyhood club

Plus how easy is it to say when you win a premier League then do it
Utd came in for Shearer when he went to Newcastle so he could have added massively to his cabinet. My point is that players can be happy at a club when looking at the bigger picture, not just silverware. Silverware isn't compulsory for happiness. Lack of silverware doesn't equal lack of ambition.
 
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