Lucifer MorningStar
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Genuinely really hard to argue against that it was phenomenalHe will be too young to remember him (and the best World Cup ever).
Probably thinks it’s a foot disease
Arthur Wedge
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He will be too young to remember him (and the best World Cup ever).
Probably thinks it’s a foot disease
It was a very good World Cup - Schillaci and Baggio were outstanding and they should have won that WC
irip
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We were very close as well.
I think we should have beaten the Germans and I think we would have beaten Argentina in the final.
I remember the legendary Steve Bull getting called up even though he wasn’t playing in the top league.
There were so many good moments in that World Cup but I think Cameroon were my favourite highlight (I could probably name 10 amazing things about that tournament).
Arthur Wedge
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Pin-seeker
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1st World Cup I can rememberHe will be too young to remember him (and the best World Cup ever).
Probably thinks it’s a foot disease
Voyager EMH
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1970 - Best World Cup and Brazil the best ever national team of all time.
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irip
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Another good one.
Again we could have won it, 2-0 up until the Germans come back.
I think 1990 was better but that was some Brazil team in 1970. (From what I have seen I’m not as old as you).
Again we could have won it, 2-0 up until the Germans come back.
I think 1990 was better but that was some Brazil team in 1970. (From what I have seen I’m not as old as you).
nickjdavis
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Watching the U-17 world cup...England v Korea.
Great slick football on show from both sides and a solid 2-0 win for our Young Lions who were pushed all the way by a very lively and technically proficient Korean team.
They are not operating VAR but both coaches have two Video Support (VS) cards. If they want a review of an incident the coach hands a card to the 4th official (a bit like playing your joker in It's a Knockout) who alerts the referee. The ref and the 4th official then go over to the pitch-side monitor, review the incident together and make their decision and communicate it to the coaches. If the VS review is upheld then the coach gets given his "review card" back, otherwise, the review is lost.
England had a review when Heskey (yes...Emile's son...looks quite lively and if he develops could be, in modern parlance, a proper baller) was through down the middle and brought down but the ref concluded (rightly in my opinion) that two other defenders in close attendance were close enough that they'd have made it tough for Heskey to get a clear shot on goal. Review took slightly longer than it should have done but it worked well.
Korea also used a review late on in the game wanting a red card for an England player stepping across an attacker and firmly blocking him off with a solid shoulder. Again the ref and 4th official reached the right decision (the Koreans thought there was an elbow involved) a bit more quickly this time.
According to the FIFA website...FVS (Football Video Support) was developed following numerous requests from Member Associations for an alternative, cost-effective way of using technology to support match officials. Unlike the video assistant referee (VAR) system, FVS does not involve dedicated video match officials, and therefore not all match-changing incidents are checked. Instead, the onus falls on the respective head coaches, who are allowed to make a limited number of review requests per game when they feel that there has been a clear and obvious error in relation to a goal, a penalty decision, a direct red card incident or a case of mistaken identity. Players can also recommend that their coaches request a review.
Football Video Support (FVS) was successfully trialled last year at the FIFA Women’s U-20 World Cup™ in Colombia and the FIFA Women’s U-17 World Cup™ in the Dominican Republic. This year, it has already been confirmed that it will be used at the FIFA U-20 World Cup™ in Chile and the FIFA U-17 Women’s World Cup™ in Morocco in addition to the U-17 showpiece in Qatar.
Great slick football on show from both sides and a solid 2-0 win for our Young Lions who were pushed all the way by a very lively and technically proficient Korean team.
They are not operating VAR but both coaches have two Video Support (VS) cards. If they want a review of an incident the coach hands a card to the 4th official (a bit like playing your joker in It's a Knockout) who alerts the referee. The ref and the 4th official then go over to the pitch-side monitor, review the incident together and make their decision and communicate it to the coaches. If the VS review is upheld then the coach gets given his "review card" back, otherwise, the review is lost.
England had a review when Heskey (yes...Emile's son...looks quite lively and if he develops could be, in modern parlance, a proper baller) was through down the middle and brought down but the ref concluded (rightly in my opinion) that two other defenders in close attendance were close enough that they'd have made it tough for Heskey to get a clear shot on goal. Review took slightly longer than it should have done but it worked well.
Korea also used a review late on in the game wanting a red card for an England player stepping across an attacker and firmly blocking him off with a solid shoulder. Again the ref and 4th official reached the right decision (the Koreans thought there was an elbow involved) a bit more quickly this time.
According to the FIFA website...FVS (Football Video Support) was developed following numerous requests from Member Associations for an alternative, cost-effective way of using technology to support match officials. Unlike the video assistant referee (VAR) system, FVS does not involve dedicated video match officials, and therefore not all match-changing incidents are checked. Instead, the onus falls on the respective head coaches, who are allowed to make a limited number of review requests per game when they feel that there has been a clear and obvious error in relation to a goal, a penalty decision, a direct red card incident or a case of mistaken identity. Players can also recommend that their coaches request a review.
Football Video Support (FVS) was successfully trialled last year at the FIFA Women’s U-20 World Cup™ in Colombia and the FIFA Women’s U-17 World Cup™ in the Dominican Republic. This year, it has already been confirmed that it will be used at the FIFA U-20 World Cup™ in Chile and the FIFA U-17 Women’s World Cup™ in Morocco in addition to the U-17 showpiece in Qatar.
Slime
Tour Winner
I really like the sound of that as long as coaching teams aren't watching the game on a monitor somewhere in order to determine whether or not the VS appeal would be wasted.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Umm...probably not...the Korean appeal was an act of desperation at 2-0 down with just a handful of minutes left. It was a fairly hefty block (the England lad just moved a couple of feet and let the Korean plough into him at pace...no attempt to play the ball and more of an American Football blocking action) but I don't think the ref even gave a free kick and there were certainly no "elbows" involved.
I wonder if there is a time limit after the incident in which the VS card has to played...would negate a "backroom team" going through multiple re-runs to decide if the card should be played. Also, given that you only have two chances to play the card and lose it for "wrong appeals", it surely would only be used for stuff that would be visually obvious, rather than stuff that might need a couple of replays to determine the outcome.
irip
Head Pro
I think it sounds like a much better idea than the current t system.
You might get teams use it at the end of a match to break up play if their team is under the cosh is the only negative I can think off the top of my head.
And we can then get back to the officials on the pitch reffing the game.
irip
Head Pro
I’m watching the boxing so reading the bbc text thingy to keep up with the football.
One pundit has just declared the ball boys have had more possession than Scotland. Really made me laugh
One pundit has just declared the ball boys have had more possession than Scotland. Really made me laugh
nickjdavis
Head Pro
The TV commentators have come up with..."Scotland are currently swimming in shark infested waters"I’m watching the boxing so reading the bbc text thingy to keep up with the football.
One pundit has just declared the ball boys have had more possession than Scotland. Really made me laugh
Arthur Wedge
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That is the main reason why I don’t think the idea of challenges , teams using them as a tactic
irip
Head Pro
I think as long as the time is correctly added on it’s not too bad it’s more a tactic to take the steam out the game.
I’m sure it could be worked around though.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Looking at the histrionic's displayed by many managers/ coaching staff at what they consider to be bad decisions, I'd be very surprised if many teams had any Video Support reviews left in the closing stages of a match.
But the thing is...you cant simply use them for anything just... clear and obvious error in relation to a goal, a penalty decision, a direct red card incident or a case of mistaken identity...given these limited scenarios, all of which would naturally result in a break in play anyway, I dont see that use of such reviews would break a game up any more than it normally would be....and if you did get teams regularly making spurious nonsensical reviews then there could easily be sanctions imposed.
4LEX
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Stuff like that sounds good on paper but managers will use it to make false appeals to waste time or have a tactical break.
Arthur Wedge
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As you say if they are used when the game has already naturally stopped then it’s certainly worth trialing
williamalex1
Money List Winner
Three near misses for Scotland approaching halftime so fingers crossed 
nickjdavis
Head Pro
...and now..."its like shooting fish in a barrel"
