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nickjdavis said:
Watching the U-17 world cup...England v Korea.

Great slick football on show from both sides and a solid 2-0 win for our Young Lions who were pushed all the way by a very lively and technically proficient Korean team.

They are not operating VAR but both coaches have two Video Support (VS) cards. If they want a review of an incident the coach hands a card to the 4th official (a bit like playing your joker in It's a Knockout) who alerts the referee. The ref and the 4th official then go over to the pitch-side monitor, review the incident together and make their decision and communicate it to the coaches. If the VS review is upheld then the coach gets given his "review card" back, otherwise, the review is lost.

England had a review when Heskey (yes...Emile's son...looks quite lively and if he develops could be, in modern parlance, a proper baller) was through down the middle and brought down but the ref concluded (rightly in my opinion) that two other defenders in close attendance were close enough that they'd have made it tough for Heskey to get a clear shot on goal. Review took slightly longer than it should have done but it worked well.

Korea also used a review late on in the game wanting a red card for an England player stepping across an attacker and firmly blocking him off with a solid shoulder. Again the ref and 4th official reached the right decision (the Koreans thought there was an elbow involved) a bit more quickly this time.

According to the FIFA website...FVS (Football Video Support) was developed following numerous requests from Member Associations for an alternative, cost-effective way of using technology to support match officials. Unlike the video assistant referee (VAR) system, FVS does not involve dedicated video match officials, and therefore not all match-changing incidents are checked. Instead, the onus falls on the respective head coaches, who are allowed to make a limited number of review requests per game when they feel that there has been a clear and obvious error in relation to a goal, a penalty decision, a direct red card incident or a case of mistaken identity. Players can also recommend that their coaches request a review.

Football Video Support (FVS) was successfully trialled last year at the FIFA Womenā€™s U-20 World Cupā„¢ in Colombia and the FIFA Womenā€™s U-17 World Cupā„¢ in the Dominican Republic. This year, it has already been confirmed that it will be used at the FIFA U-20 World Cupā„¢ in Chile and the FIFA U-17 Womenā€™s World Cupā„¢ in Morocco in addition to the U-17 showpiece in Qatar.
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They have a similar thing in Rugby.
It works very well.
 
Not the greatest game but it was a dead rubber and a banana skin. To win that 2-0 is excellent.

Won the group with 8 wins out of 8
Scored 22 goals
Conceded 0

That's some record and all the while a new manager is bedding in.

I'm very pleased with what Tuchel is doing. He's realised fairly quickly we're a much better side with wingers and it also brings the best out of Kane. He won't be cramming the big names in because he's too scared to leave them out like Southgate. He's a proper manager who can coach players and doesn't rely on individual quality.

Will we win the World Cup? Who knows but we've got a better chance than with Southgate. Although I bet we now get a tough group and no luck in the draws :censored:šŸ˜…
 
4LEX said:
Not the greatest game but it was a dead rubber and a banana skin. To win that 2-0 is excellent.

Won the group with 8 wins out of 8
Scored 22 goals
Conceded 0

That's some record and all the while a new manager is bedding in.

I'm very pleased with what Tuchel is doing. He's realised fairly quickly we're a much better side with wingers and it also brings the best out of Kane. He won't be cramming the big names in because he's too scared to leave them out like Southgate. He's a proper manager who can coach players and doesn't rely on individual quality.

Will we win the World Cup? Who knows but we've got a better chance than with Southgate. Although I bet we now get a tough group and no luck in the draws :censored:šŸ˜…
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Thoughts on Bellingham appreciated. šŸ‘
 
Tashyboy said:
Thoughts on Bellingham appreciated. šŸ‘
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Difficult one that!

You'd say he's one of 3 players looking for the role behind Kane but he's not really done enough to cement the spot. Bellingham, Foden and Palmer is a ridiculous pick though. They would all get into any team in the world IMO.

I'd favour Bellingham on football ability but I think he's got a bit of an ego which isn't going down too well with Tuchel. The all round choice would be Palmer. Still plenty of time before the WC to see how things go....

Your view?
 
4LEX said:
Difficult one that!

You'd say he's one of 3 players looking for the role behind Kane but he's not really done enough to cement the spot. Bellingham, Foden and Palmer is a ridiculous pick though. They would all get into any team in the world IMO.

I'd favour Bellingham on football ability but I think he's got a bit of an ego which isn't going down too well with Tuchel. The all round choice would be Palmer. Still plenty of time before the WC to see how things go....

Your view?
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Agree I think he tries to do to much.
If he stuck to his own job he would play better imo.
Defo agree the ego ,but most top players have that.

Thought Foden linked well when he came on.

Whoā€™s this Rashford fella knocking crosses in.
 
What is going on with the Italians?
Done 4-1 at home by Norway.
Failed to make the last 2 world cups and looking iffy for this one but won the Euros in between.

Just not a good side anymore or been a bit unlucky? Or something else?
 
I donā€™t agree that Bellingham or anyone should be ā€œfirst name on the team sheetā€. Your club form gets you into the squad it does not mean you deserve to start.

You earn your place with training, attitude, doing what the manager asks of you and putting the team before your own self importance and your on pitch performances wearing the England shirt not your club shirt.. Rogerā€™s in recent matches has been excellent for England and based on ego and performances currently should be starting ahead of Bellingham. Jude is a generational talent but that doesnā€™t mean he and his ego is what the team needs. Itā€™s not about the best players itā€™s about the best team, we failed for years with the best midfielders in the world in Gerrard and Lampard.

Arrogance of one player can derail a team Tuchel is doing it the right way not the way fans of superstars want it to be done.
 
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