Orikoru
Tour Winner
Based on City's results with/without him, Rodri is one of the most influential players of all time.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
Apparently the major agreement is done so Sporting, United and Amorim are all sorted however it's the rest has not been sorted. He wants to bring his back room team and so Sporting want a bigger payment from United plus United want no notice period so he (and the rest of his lot) can get started ASAP. I guess it'll all come down to how much United are willing to pay.
Morfeen75
Active member
Why are you so aggressive? You have single handedly forced 1 member away from this forum this week, do not try it with me as you will fail.
But they're not. If a GK kept 38 clean sheets the team wouldnt win a sausage. Forwards and flair players win the trophies, they simply should be honoured for their efforts.
It is my opinion and i wont be changing it for you buddy!!
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Morfeen75
Active member
Nice work highlighting 1 word from my point. I'm not dismissing Rodri as a footballer.
Reemul
Head Pro
You might as well be, any player should be able to win the Ballon D'or and saying otherwise is pretty pathetic and does devalue your opinion and thoughts. In fact it just about tops the award for the Ballon D'or of stupid posts. Here have a trophy of your own.
Maybe we should rename it to Ballon D'or of attacking Players award
Orikoru
Tour Winner
The point is scoring goals isn't the only way to influence a game.
Edit: In addition, he did contribute 9 goals last season from a defensive midfield position which is a good return in itself!
Swango1980
Well-known member
Maybe Utd could offer them Ruud Van Nistelrooy and a few or their current coaches to take over at Sporting
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Aggressive ?
And who have I “single handedly” forced to leave
You posted an opinion which I think is a bit out there and appears to not understand the roles of players
Respond to the opinion as opposed to flex some virtual muscles
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Cheers
Seems a bit strange that he agrees etc and he may well not take charge until next week
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Spot on -
Goal scorers will be key and they will get the highlights
But there always some players in other roles that stand out and enable those goals to be scored
And that includes CBs and GKs
VVD should have won it in 2019 and there have no doubt been key CB’s and GK that should have been recognised during those Messi , Ronaldo years
Rodri is a worthy winner this season
Swango1980
Well-known member
I'd rather they take their time sorting everything out personally, rather than trying to rush things through to try and get started a game earlier. A long way to go in the season, and a heck of a lot of work to do regardless, so rushing things through to get him there before the Chelsea game is probably not critical.
That being said, ETH was sacked on Monday and Utd have talked to Sporting since then. We're only at Wednesday, Sporting had a game last night, so things have seemed to progress pretty quickly as it stands already.
Morfeen75
Active member
There's not many players in world football who have the ability to win the Balon D'or and it has historically been given to those who are at the top end of the pitch delivering the goods with an ambundance of ability and flair. Recognising that shouldnt devalue my opinion. There's no need for a trophy and on this occassion i will gladly decline your very generous offer.
Swango1980
Well-known member
In your opinion, of course.
At 32 years old, and one of the few players that will ever be discussed as the best player of all time, Messi was still pretty decent. He hadn't lost his magic yet. And, personally I feel he was miles ahead of VVD as the best player in the world.
Obviously, the only way VVD was even in the discussion was because Liverpool happened to win the Champions League in 2019, beating Spurs in the final. In the semi-final Barcelona beat Liverpool 3-0 in the first leg, and it took a 4-0 Liverpool win to stage a great comeback. Had things followed the odds after that 1st leg, I don't think anyone would have been thinking as VVD as the best in the world?
But, I suppose that follows what is said. Ballon D'Or isn't just about simply being the best player in the world, it is largely influenced by what the team does, and which players are regarded most influential in that team. If a player wins Ballon D'Or, who plays for a team that didn't win things that year, that player has to be a truly remarkable player to stand out amongst the best players in trophy winning clubs / national sides.
Bazz
Q-School Graduate
For me that last bit highlights that Haaland was robbed last year.
I realise football is a subject matter which tends to provoke heated debate, but is it not possible to conduct that debate without endless accusations and catty remarks?
No more please.
No more please.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Rodri is the first name on the City team sheet for big games imo.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Well, no, in reality it's just that we've had the two greatest players of all time battling it out for the last 15 years. Prior to that it has been won by the likes of Cannavaro and Sammer. Of course goals take the headlines, but I don't think an award for the best outright player in the world should favour any particular position or role. It is hard to compare apples and oranges of course, with defensive v attacking players, but I think it's good that someone like Rodri gets recognised for the huge impact he's made.
Vinicius only managed 15 league goals last season to Rodri's 8 as well - it's not like he was ripping it up at goal-per-game levels like other top La Liga players we've seen in the past. Benzema for example when he won had scored 27 league goals the previous season, so that was fair enough.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
There is no doubt that Haaland was robbed - was poor that they voted Messi based on the World Cup 12 months previously
Swango1980
Well-known member
I completely agree
There can be few complaints about Messi winning many of his previous ones, as one of the best of all time. Unless from maybe Ronaldo. But, to win it last year at Inter Miami was very much the World Cup vote, not the best player in the world at that time.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Maybe, or Haaland. Especially with no Alvarez anymore
