clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Not from the refs obviously.
But he’s not alone given what I have seen on TV this weekend.
But he’s not alone given what I have seen on TV this weekend.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I notice a couple of pages of replies have come in, so maybe someone also responded (haven't yet read them)
But, it WASN'T offside. That is the entire point. That is why VAR didn't overrule it after, which it would have done if linesman made a mistake.
The offside rule says Salah is no longer offside once defender intentionally plays it. End off. The linesman shouldn't put his flag up simply because Salah is in offside position, because he is not guilty of a breach of offside unless he touches the ball without defender intentionally playing it beforehand.
It is a garbage rule, but linesman was spot on as far as that rule is concerned. VAR or no VAR
Agreed, but I also agree the rule is appalling. It would have been even more messy had the defender been aware of Salah (he was actually behind him so not in view), because surely the argument would then be raised that the defender knew he had to attempt a clearance and, as a direct consequence of knowing that, it must surely follow that Salah was interfering with play and as such was offside.
I really don’t buy this nonsense that a glancing header by the defender starts a new phase of play. It’s a ridiculously over complicated rule which is in desperate need of being stripped back to basics with some old fashioned common sense being applied.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I completely agree. Sounds like everyone in here does.
As far as rules go, Salah wasn't offside and linesman got it spot on.
But, also as far as rule goes, it is garbage. Salah well and truly, categorically, 100% benefitted from being in an offside position.
Tashyboy
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sadly we are talking about Salah in an offside position. If it was Nunez we would have had 4 pages of another miss and not 4 pages of VAR ?
Swango1980
Well-known member
Nunez would have been begging for it to be offside, save his blushes
clubchamp98
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You are aware Nunez scored in this game
Tashyboy
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You are aware Nunez scored in this game
I saw it, it was the second best shinned goal I have seen after Rooneys overhead shin kick v City ?
That aside it’s the golf monthly forum and facts should not get in the way of a good tale. ??
clubchamp98
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I have come to learn that.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.You are aware Nunez scored in this game
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Aston Vil-LOL
Absolute embarrassment - nothing more to say.
Absolute embarrassment - nothing more to say.
When the media roll out the whole 'magic of the cup', 'big cup upset' etc, it really doesn't stand up anymore. Sheff Wed beat Newcastle reserves on Saturday, where is the magic or upset in that? How many reserves played for Villa yesterday? The hype really does not match the reality any more, hasn't done for many years. I've no doubt you would rather have won but the owners won't be losing sleep about the result.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Newcastle reserves is stretching it a little, a few first teamers in the start XI and all the big guns came off the bench after an hour when they were losing, Sheff Wed deserve far more credit based on what I saw of the game, Windass was superb as was McGuinness at the back.
I'm not taking anything away from Sheff Wed but to claim it was a big upset doesn't stack up. Newcastle's priority right now is the game on Tuesday, QF of the Carabou Cup. Next up is the league game on Sunday. There is no way the starting 11 on Saturday starts on Tuesday. A few might but most will be on the bench. In the past, the full 1st team would have started every cup game.
I've just checked the line up. Botman, Longstaff & Joelinton are regulars. Isaak will become one but this was his first game back after a long injury. The rest are bench warmers.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Its still a decent upset, a side 2 leagues lower against one of the richest premier league sides in the top 3 currently who put out a pretty strong squad for the game
Lets hope Oxford do the same tonight.........
It's great for Sheff Wed, they certainly need the money more than Newcastle. Next round v Fleetwood, a great chance for them to go further. For Howe, it shows him which players he needs to move on in the summer, maybe even this window.Its still a decent upset, a side 2 leagues lower against one of the richest premier league sides in the top 3 currently who put out a pretty strong squad for the game
Lets hope Oxford do the same tonight.........
I'm guessing you won't mind going out tonight? Winning the league is more important than tiring the squad in the cup. You don't have a massive squad, so rest is better I'd say.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Yep, hate saying it but especially with the next round being City away happily have just the league and Europe left to blow. Expect Arteta puts out a hybrid side a bit like Newcastle did and hopes its enough whilst a few get a rest if it goes OK
Orikoru
Tour Winner
The defender cannot just gamble on the fact someone might be offside and leave the ball though can he?? It's an absolutely flipping joke of a rule. I honestly can't understand how they've buggered the rules up to such a degree nowadays that they're ruining the game. It should be simple. If you're offside when someone tries to pass it to you, you're offside. Why can't it just be that?? It makes me want to cry.
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
More first team players than youd think mate...
Backup GK
Starting RB (Cash), Backup CB, Backup CB, Backup LB
Starting CM (Douglas Luiz), Backup, Backup
Staring RW (Bailey) Ings at ST and Coutinho on the left...
More than enough to beat a team in league 2 on paper, but football isnt played on paper and our forwards just could not break Stevenage down.
Absolutely Abysmal
Swango1980
Well-known member
One of my whatsApp groups includes a Sheff Wed season ticket holder and a Newcastle fan. There was a bit of banter before and during the game. They both discussed before the game they have weakened sides, especially Newcastle, as "both teams have got bigger fish to fry" - Sheff Wed fan. The Newcastle fan said they have a game on Tuesday they need to win, so they were never going to play a strong team. The Wednesday fan said they need to be ready for Wycombe next week. The Newcastle fan said he'd take champs league qualification over FA Cup all day long and was happy they were out (granted, that bit was said after the game, so might have been easier to say).
So, what you say is very true. Decades ago, the FA Cup was big. For me, it was probably the only real football domestic football I got to see live on TV (along with mid week European games, Football Italia and England internationals). I only got to see League football on Match of the Day, so the FA Cup was a pretty rare occasion to watch live English club football for me. The FA Cup final was a big spectacle. BBC dedicated nearly the whole day to it, with the build up, the cream suits (haha), match and analysis.
Now, we are swamped with football we can watch. 4-5 league games every weekend, and maybe more midweek (or a large range of European ties to watch). We can watch live football from multiple European leagues if we want to. I do like that, but at same time it has removed the mystique from the FA Cup almost entirely. You'll still be well excited for it, if you are a small team against a massive team. You will still be happy enough if you end up winning it, just like you would the League Cup. But, all in all, it is nowhere near as appealing as it used to be, for me personally. I almost can't be bothered watching any tie, unless Man Utd are playing. Maybe I'll tune in if 2 big teams play each other, and watched Liverpool Wolves. But I tuned into Leicester game and Leeds game, and just had zero interest in staying tuned. Whereas, if it was an average Premier League game, I do tend to have more interest simply because of impact result will have on the League table, wherever that is. Even if the game itself, and the teams playing, or pretty poor.
