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But Salah by the rules is not offside so why would he put the flag up ?

What the linesman did was right , allow the play to continue and then check after

If he’s offside when the ball is first played it should be irrelevant if a defender then gets a touch on it - you know how it was in the old days
 

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If he’s offside when the ball is first played it should be irrelevant if a defender then gets a touch on it - you know how it was in the old days
Yes this.
Maybe the flag should go up but play on so the defender has a choice to play the ball or not.
Either way it’s a joke of a rule.
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I've no issue with offside not being given if a player is not interfering with play, even if they get involved further on, in what is clearly a different phase of play. We always heard about "phase of play". However, they've messed about with rule so much now, they don't have a clue what they are up to, it seems. There is not one fan, player, manager that would think Salah got involved in a separate phase of play, from when that ball was played in. Had the defender made same move, but only got a single hair on it, the rules now say Salah is no longer offside.

It is an absolute farce. We said this a year ago, and we will continue to do so until the authorities see some sense.

And of the millions and millions of pounds they have invested into VAR, and the extra officials they employ to administer it, it is simply embarrassing they don't have a camera that scans the entire width of the pitch.
 

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If he’s offside when the ball is first played it should be irrelevant if a defender then gets a touch on it - you know how it was in the old days
If memory serves me right, City scored against Villa the season before last like this. It was wrong then and two seasons later it is still wrong.
 

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And of the millions and millions of pounds they have invested into VAR, and the extra officials they employ to administer it, it is simply embarrassing they don't have a camera that scans the entire width of the pitch.
Whats embarrassing is playing a Cup competition with different rules for different stadia. Either you have VAR for all the comp or you don't.
 

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Whats embarrassing is playing a Cup competition with different rules for different stadia. Either you have VAR for all the comp or you don't.
Totally agree, we are all in or we are all out. But in this instance we are partly in and still getting it wrong ?
 

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Whats embarrassing is playing a Cup competition with different rules for different stadia. Either you have VAR for all the comp or you don't.

Absolutely.

It’s absolutely ludicrous that a referee can make a game changing mistake and whether or not that mistake gets rectified depends on which stadium you’re playing in. Do the FA not realise just what a nonsense that is?
 

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Absolutely.

It’s absolutely ludicrous that a referee can make a game changing mistake and whether or not that mistake gets rectified depends on which stadium you’re playing in. Do the FA not realise just what a nonsense that is?

Yeah, but both teams are playing under the same rules.
The teams in any one match either both have VAR or both don't, so I can't see an issue with VAR being stadium dependent.
 

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Yeah, but both teams are playing under the same rules.
The teams in any one match either both have VAR or both don't, so I can't see an issue with VAR being stadium dependent.
Except when it's one team who is used to VAR against another team that has no experience of VAR.
Either all teams must have it, or turn it off.
 

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Yeah, but both teams are playing under the same rules.
The teams in any one match either both have VAR or both don't, so I can't see an issue with VAR being stadium dependent.

But just think about it. You’re Chesterfield and you’re playing at home against Man City. You score a perfectly legitimate 94th minute winner in an FA Cup tie only to see it ruled out for an offside, which a VAR review would have shown to be a glaring mistake. Only, there is no VAR review because the system isn’t unavailable.

It just doesn’t feel right. And if something doesn’t feel right it invariably isn’t.
 

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But just think about it. You’re Chesterfield and you’re playing at home against Man City. You score a perfectly legitimate 94th minute winner in an FA Cup tie only to see it ruled out for an offside, which a VAR review would have shown to be a glaring mistake. Only, there is no VAR review because the system isn’t unavailable.

It just doesn’t feel right. And if something doesn’t feel right it invariably isn’t.

But what if Chesterfield score an offside goal in the 94th minute that VAR would have ruled out but, because there is no VAR, it's allowed to stand?
 

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Except when it's one team who is used to VAR against another team that has no experience of VAR.
Either all teams must have it, or turn it off.

Sorry Bunker, but I don't see how 'being used to VAR' is relevant.
Teams don't play different because they are/aren't used to it, do they?
 

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Having seen the highlights from yesterday, the 2nd Wrexham goal, CR7 fans will claim the goal belongs to the striker that didn't ouch it because the goal would have caught it otherwise?
 

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But what if Chesterfield score an offside goal in the 94th minute that VAR would have ruled out but, because there is no VAR, it's allowed to stand?

Then surely the same applies - it’s a game changing cock-up which is allowed to stand because of the absence of VAR.

There shouldn’t be the possibility of game changing mistakes being missed in one FA Cup tie, but being rectified in another game, simply because of where those two games are being played.

We all seem to be of the view that the standard of refereeing is pretty average. If there is a reliance on VAR to support officials in making correct decisions, then regardless of the fact that VAR itself is also a bit of a mess, that mess should at least be available across the board in a competition.
 

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Are Chelsea really as bad as they appear to be this afternoon?


they have a huge amount of injuries, an unbalanced squad and a manager new in who hasnt had a chance to get his own players in as yet. Sounds familiar to a few other sides recently.....

seems a bit early to judge Potter and where theyre headed to me (especially as theyre rumoured to be buying half of europe this transfer window lol)

Missing Mendy, Fofana, Chilwell, James, Kante, Broja, Loftus Cheek, Sterling, Pulisic at least
 
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