The Footie Thread

[Swango1980]

This is exactly as I thought, However what struck me was Ronaldo thinking he could have the clause inserted allowing him to go. Is his ego really that big?

To be fair, nearly all footballers have clauses in their contracts to allow them to get out of it if something bigger comes along (unless you are Harry Kane, and get a big kick in the nuts when you find you are stuck at Spurs because your brother failed to get a clause in his contract)

If true, it simply tells me that Ronaldo still has a desire to play in the Champions League, and is willing to abandon the ridiculously high wages from his Saudi Arabian contract if a suitable offer comes in. I don't see there being a problem with that type of ambition or belief. If he didn't have a clause, then he could be accused of completely giving up on playing top level football ever again (which he has already been accused of from anyway).

Of course, it is one thing having the ambition to play at that level again, and another thing actually getting that opportunity. It is difficult to see this happening. Most big clubs are unlikely going to want a 37/38 year old on high wages. But, even if clubs wanted a temporary solution, Ronaldo's petulance over the last year will have put most, if not all clubs off from signing him anyway. If clubs are in the Champions League, they've already played at a high enough level to achieve this, and probably have a pretty decent team atmosphere. The thought of having Ronaldo in that squad would be scary, because you'd be worried that if things start going wrong, his attitude would make things worse, instead of bringing the team together and getting through any rocky spells.

 

[moogie]

As reported on the BBC Gossip page.

Cristiano Ronaldo has a clause in his Al Nassr contract allowing the Portugal forward, 37, to join Newcastle United on loan if they qualify for the Champions League this season. (Marca)

So the question is. Would the Newcastle fans want Ronaldo in there team. ?

Big fat NO......!!!

 

[Orikoru]

Rumours that we're hoping to ship Emmanuel Dennis off in the Jan window.

a.) I hope it's true - in a terrible Forest team, he's the only player who has not improved since the start of the season. Every single other player (including Lingard!) has stepped up.
b.) I don't think we'll get our money back for him, but I think I'd rather trim the dead weight now, as we don't need any dressing room issues when he's not getting game time.
c.) it wouldn't surprise me, as Cooper didn't want him in the first place (and nearly led to him walking out in August, as I understand it).

Also hearing rumours that Sam Surridge is being sent out on Loan to Burnley. Great for Burnley if so...massive loss for us - he really deserves a proper chance in the Forest 1st team.

We desperately need a CB and dynamic striker to compliment Awoniyi's I'll-just-run-through-you approach.

I find this surprising as Dennis looked really good for a period at Watford. Sure he was linked to some top half clubs at the time, maybe even Arsenal if memory serves.

 

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[Aztecs27]

I find this surprising as Dennis looked really good for a period at Watford. Sure he was linked to some top half clubs at the time, maybe even Arsenal if memory serves.

I suspect that's why he was bought in, but he's really shown nothing. My Watford supporting mate said he may do well but drop off fairly quickly and seems to rattle a few cages in the dressing room if he doesn't get his way - so I hope that it doesn't come to that.

But in all the appearances he's made, he either doesn't pass the ball to any of his team mates, when there's multiple options going OR passes the ball straight to the opponent. I'm not exaggerating either, it really has been that bad. Maybe his heart's not in it, and he's not bought into Cooper's culture, I don't know - but everyone else seems like they'd take a bullet for the team. Even "only here for the money" Lingard, who's now out for a month with a hamstring problem, was patrolling the sideline on Sunday, handing out drinks during breaks, telling the referee he's useless (he was ) and is visibly invested in wanting Forest to do well.

Shame we don't seem to have got the same player Watford had (or maybe we just don't play the style of football he can thrive in - probably because we've been terrible for the majority of the first part of the season ), but his mistakes and lack of vision to feed his team mates just means he's currently taking up a spot in the squad that could be better used.

 

[Piece]

I suspect that's why he was bought in, but he's really shown nothing. My Watford supporting mate said he may do well but drop off fairly quickly and seems to rattle a few cages in the dressing room if he doesn't get his way - so I hope that it doesn't come to that.

But in all the appearances he's made, he either doesn't pass the ball to any of his team mates, when there's multiple options going OR passes the ball straight to the opponent. I'm not exaggerating either, it really has been that bad. Maybe his heart's not in it, and he's not bought into Cooper's culture, I don't know - but everyone else seems like they'd take a bullet for the team. Even "only here for the money" Lingard, who's now out for a month with a hamstring problem, was patrolling the sideline on Sunday, handing out drinks during breaks, telling the referee he's useless (he was ) and is visibly invested in wanting Forest to do well.

Shame we don't seem to have got the same player Watford had (or maybe we just don't play the style of football he can thrive in - probably because we've been terrible for the majority of the first part of the season ), but his mistakes and lack of vision to feed his team mates just means he's currently taking up a spot in the squad that could be better used.

Yup, yup and yup!

We'll take him back for free, only because we've got 14 first-teamers out!

 

[Tashyboy]

To be fair, nearly all footballers have clauses in their contracts to allow them to get out of it if something bigger comes along (unless you are Harry Kane, and get a big kick in the nuts when you find you are stuck at Spurs because your brother failed to get a clause in his contract)

If true, it simply tells me that Ronaldo still has a desire to play in the Champions League, and is willing to abandon the ridiculously high wages from his Saudi Arabian contract if a suitable offer comes in. I don't see there being a problem with that type of ambition or belief. If he didn't have a clause, then he could be accused of completely giving up on playing top level football ever again (which he has already been accused of from anyway).

Of course, it is one thing having the ambition to play at that level again, and another thing actually getting that opportunity. It is difficult to see this happening. Most big clubs are unlikely going to want a 37/38 year old on high wages. But, even if clubs wanted a temporary solution, Ronaldo's petulance over the last year will have put most, if not all clubs off from signing him anyway. If clubs are in the Champions League, they've already played at a high enough level to achieve this, and probably have a pretty decent team atmosphere. The thought of having Ronaldo in that squad would be scary, because you'd be worried that if things start going wrong, his attitude would make things worse, instead of bringing the team together and getting through any rocky spells.

That I didnt know, ?.

 

[fundy]

Yup, yup and yup!

We'll take him back for free, only because we've got 14 first-teamers out!

Is Davis out after last night too? He looked excellent before going off

 

[Swango1980]

That I didnt know, ?.

Yeah, I understand Harry Kane thought there was a gentleman's agreement with Levy, but when push came to shove, Levy wouldn't let him leave as nothing was written down on paper. I think many found that ridiculously naive from Kane, especially after signing a 6 year contract.

 

[Aztecs27]

Yup, yup and yup!

We'll take him back for free, only because we've got 14 first-teamers out!

Glad it's a universal opinion! As I said before, I'm almost certain Cooper had nothing to do with his signing and wasn't happy about it happening, and has tried to make the most of him being here - but he's just terrible.

Is Davis out after last night too? He looked excellent before going off

Bloody miss that lad. Gutted we didn't sign him in the summer but Villa wanted stupid money for him. Fortunately Awoniyi is built from the same stuff and has started to look like Davis did for us last season.

 

[Piece]

Glad it's a universal opinion! As I said before, I'm almost certain Cooper had nothing to do with his signing and wasn't happy about it happening, and has tried to make the most of him being here - but he's just terrible.

He downed tools when he made enough "noise" to get himself noticed for a 'big' move. When he was good (10 games or so), he was excellent, but when he wasn't....well, you've seen it!

Bloody miss that lad. Gutted we didn't sign him in the summer but Villa wanted stupid money for him. Fortunately Awoniyi is built from the same stuff and has started to look like Davis did for us last season.

It's taken him ages to get fit. We just need some of our decent players back fit (and others via the transfer market) to support him. What you'd call, "a right hand full on his day".

 

[Aztecs27]

He downed tools when he made enough "noise" to get himself noticed for a 'big' move. When he was good (10 games or so), he was excellent, but when he wasn't....well, you've seen it!



It's taken him ages to get fit. We just need some of our decent players back fit (and others via the transfer market) to support him. What you'd call, "a right hand full on his day".

perfect summary of Davis.

The Athletic are reporting that Dennis may be moved on to the MLS or Saudi as there's been some interest....for around £10m....if so, I'm absolutely delighted with that outcome. Got our money back and gets him out of the squad. Win-win.

 

[Billysboots]

Very slightly nervous about United fielding a very Solskjaer-esque back four. I’m hoping the combination of opposition and Casemiro in front of that defence will mean my fears are misplaced, but the Lindelöf/Maguire pairing, in particular, has always given me the jitters.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Leicester, Chelsea and Newcastle next for Fulham so a reality check coming up

 

[Billysboots]

Leicester, Chelsea and Newcastle next for Fulham so a reality check coming up

Should get 3 points this evening. Leicester are woeful. And I’ve just added Mitrovic to my FL team. Result.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Refs having a shocking game (arsenal Newcastle)... The softest of soft fouls is a yellow card, which is encouraging players to go down easier and easier .... Screaming and barrel rolls. This could get farcical.

 

[fundy]

who on earth put Madley in charge ffs

 

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[Deleted member 15344]

I see Man Utd have dropped their £90mil forward who has only scored 3 all season -I’m surprised when the media are talking about flops of the season that he appears to have been ignored which is surprising as he was the most expensive signing of the summer

And the Arsenal Newcastle game - when the heck did they allow Maddely to ref a Prem game again , must be odds on for a red card this game now

 

[fundy]

I see Man Utd have dropped their £90mil forward who has only scored 3 all season -I’m surprised when the media are talking about flops of the season that he appears to have been ignored which is surprising as he was the most expensive signing of the summer

And the Arsenal Newcastle game - when the heck did they allow Maddely to ref a Prem game again , must be odds on for a red card this game now

i took the 6/1 lol