SteveJay
Head Pro
Harsh if you regularly take your car on a ferry or the Chunnel and rack up a lot of miles abroad!
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WorldHandicapSystem
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What’s entitlement got to do with anything?
cliveb
Head Pro
I see that the expectation being reported is that you'll be required to declare your expected mileage when renewing VED. Presumably at some point actual mileage will be checked. I don't see how foreign travel can be excluded from that scheme. Nobody's going to believe you if you say "2000 of those miles were in France", are they?Harsh if you regularly take your car on a ferry or the Chunnel and rack up a lot of miles abroad!
Anyhow, I guess we'll find out at the Budget.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Might need a taco graph or black box.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Most speculation seems to suggest 2028, after a period of consultation.
The popularity of leasing involves a mileage estimation. Suggestion of credit if lower, or additional charge if over.
The popularity of leasing involves a mileage estimation. Suggestion of credit if lower, or additional charge if over.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Then lets all massively overestimate our annual mileage. That will screw up their calculations
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Interesting how the gov wanted everyone to go EV and now they are pushing pay per mile. I need to follow this as my pcp lease is up in May/June and work want me back in a company car that’s either an EV or hybrid.
I was leaning toward the EV for BIK reasons, will also be interesting to see if the pay per mile feeds into combustion and hybrid vehicles.
I was leaning toward the EV for BIK reasons, will also be interesting to see if the pay per mile feeds into combustion and hybrid vehicles.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
It will be all soon enough.
Or they will charge you more to charge your car just like fuel taxes.
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
I suppose the issue there for home chargers is separating domestic use verses vehicle energy.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
I presume that a lease only last 3 years. I cannot see the government being able to bring in the necessary 'structures' within the next 3 years to get it to work.
A lease can last as long as you want but usually between 1-4 years. Your point stands though. A consultation period will be required, minimum of a year I would suspect.
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
I should have been a little clearer. My current employee took me on when I had a pcp in place as my previous role allowed you to opt out. Current employer said that I could see my current lease out under an allowance scheme but I have to go into a company car when that lease is up.
D-S
Well-known member
How does today's news really change affordability? A lot or still good value? I probably do about 10k miles pa.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Is it cheaper than the duty and VAT on petrol and diesel? I suspect it's still way cheaper.
D-S
Well-known member
I don't care who I'm paying the money to (oil company, electricity company or exchequer) I am more interested in the cost per mile over a, let's say, 3 year period factoring the ev premium paid initially for the car from new. It would not be a company car.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Rachel from accounts reckons about half the cost of the taxes for ICE drivers but still that so far is an additional £400 a year or so in additional taxes since I bought my EV, add in the increased cost of insurance over a ICE car not such a good deal these days.
Looks like it is going to cost the local council some of the cost as I may start using buses and my bus pass a bit more.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
10k miles will cost £300 a year from April 2028 so that is 2.5 years without paying it. Trouble is once it is in and they see how much it costs to administer will it stay at 3p/mile?
larmen
Head Pro
I read somewhere a while ago (might have been here) that people that complain about 3p a mile for electric were never going to go electric anyway.
We still plan to move over next year, (got another year MOT on the Focus) maybe that reduces the prices ;-)
She didn't address the how, did she? At least it isn't easily findable at this point.
cliveb
Head Pro
Duty on petrol & diesel is 53p a litre, so for a typical 10 miles/litre, that's about 5p a mile. So the EV charge of 3p/mile is a little less.
As before, EVs will remain cheaper than ICE if you can home charge, and more than ICE if you have to use public chargers.
I'm sure it won't be long before the pay-per-mile charge gets extended to ICE cars.
larmen
Head Pro
We had a guy in the running club who in the early 2000s worked for the ministry of transport and was looking into pay by mile road pricing. I can't recall if it was maut or general, but it was way before EV.
