The all things EV chat thread

GreiginFife said:
By the look of that image it’s just a channel cut across the pavement running from a “normal” charger mounted inside his gatepost.

I would then assume that the user would be liable for the cost of the work (just like paying for a dropped kerb) and the cost of permission.

The white strip is presumably removable/replaceable to get the cable in and out.

Prob looking at £800-£1000 depending on council and contractor used.
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That’s a lot of money - both our salary sacrifice schemes have binned off all hybrids etc so it’s just full EV only - so gone for Puma for the wife and I’ll just wait
 
GreiginFife said:
By the look of that image it’s just a channel cut across the pavement running from a “normal” charger mounted inside his gatepost.

I would then assume that the user would be liable for the cost of the work (just like paying for a dropped kerb) and the cost of permission.

The white strip is presumably removable/replaceable to get the cable in and out.

Prob looking at £800-£1000 depending on council and contractor used.
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I believe in Oxford the council has done whole streets like this so presumably they paid for it.

I have seen comments where house owners with this system have become very neighbourly ensuring that the houses with these do not get parked outside of. Or where there is shared charging units they only park near to it when they need it.

I walked through a recent build estate where either the houses had their own charges or there were several parking bays with shared chargers
 
Hydrogen hasn't been touched on for a while so I thought I would provide an insight into what is happening at the moment. I still don't believe there will be a suitable infrastucture for private hydrogen cars, but for larger vehicles like buses and lorries, it is still very much a viable option.
As an example, there is a Bus facility in the South East which uses liquid hydrogen to fuel its buses. They take about 8 minutes to fuel and can operate up to 600 miles a day. The depot operates 34 buses, (23 single decks and 11 double deckers). The facility is totally safe and controlled and the buses give out zero emissions.
Hydrogen, when designed correctly, is safe, efficient and has a place in the infrastructure, along with electric vehicles and (I believe) ICE for some time to come.
Metrobus rolls out zero-emission hydrogen fleet into Sutton
Hydrogen buses: 34 new double deckers start service in Brighton & Hove
 
Lord Tyrion said:
It's a shame that Hydrogen hasn't advanced further. I think many more people would happily swap over to Hydrogen from ICE cars than to Electric from ICE. Maybe there is still hope....
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The vehicle technology is there. But we have been used to a fuel that is realtively easy to transport and store in petrol and diesel. Hydrogen boils at -253°C so transportation and storage presents totally different challenges. I also hope that it expands so that more ICE cars can be converted to Hydrogen. For me it has many benefits over electric, especially in refuelling time and range. I hope improvements can be made, but it is not a quick process. Of course, I could be wrong.
 
We’ve just bought a Volvo XC40 mild hybrid. We considered full/plug-in EV but rejected it on the grounds that we couldn’t come up with a practical solution for ‘home charging’. We live on a Victorian/Edwardian town street with no off street parking for most residents. There is a two-vehicle charging point on the main road about 150yds from our front door but I wasn’t willing to leave a new car out of my sight on a main road.
 
Robster59 said:
The vehicle technology is there. But we have been used to a fuel that is realtively easy to transport and store in petrol and diesel. Hydrogen boils at -253°C so transportation and storage presents totally different challenges. I also hope that it expands so that more ICE cars can be converted to Hydrogen. For me it has many benefits over electric, especially in refuelling time and range. I hope improvements can be made, but it is not a quick process. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Are you suggesting burning hydrogen in internal combustion engines?
I can see only one advantage to that - keeping the entertainment factor of how an ICE behaves.
In all other respects it makes far more sense to use hydrogen in a fuel cell to power an electric drivetrain.
 
Robster59 said:
Hydrogen hasn't been touched on for a while so I thought I would provide an insight into what is happening at the moment. I still don't believe there will be a suitable infrastucture for private hydrogen cars, but for larger vehicles like buses and lorries, it is still very much a viable option.
As an example, there is a Bus facility in the South East which uses liquid hydrogen to fuel its buses. They take about 8 minutes to fuel and can operate up to 600 miles a day. The depot operates 34 buses, (23 single decks and 11 double deckers). The facility is totally safe and controlled and the buses give out zero emissions.
Hydrogen, when designed correctly, is safe, efficient and has a place in the infrastructure, along with electric vehicles and (I believe) ICE for some time to come.
Metrobus rolls out zero-emission hydrogen fleet into Sutton
Hydrogen buses: 34 new double deckers start service in Brighton & Hove
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From the replies to questions in this article it seems that the Hydrogen has been made from Methane, so therefore does have a carbon footprint, just non at the tailpipe.
 
cliveb said:
Are you suggesting burning hydrogen in internal combustion engines?
I can see only one advantage to that - keeping the entertainment factor of how an ICE behaves.
In all other respects it makes far more sense to use hydrogen in a fuel cell to power an electric drivetrain.
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No, not at all. I mean people moving to ICE from Hydrogen. The two technologies are fundementally different.
 
I recently had the use of a hybrid car for a day.
I can't comment on fuel efficiency or anything like that as I only did about 50 miles.
However, and this really did my head in, almost everything I did resulted in a warning bing or bong!
When I opened my door I got a bong and a dashboard warning to be aware of children in the back.
When stuck in traffic and the car in front pulled away I had another message on the dash saying 'The lead car is moving on', what is that all about?
A) It's not moving on, it's moving off and
B) I have eyes, they're quite useful when driving a car, I can see the car in front moving OFF, thanks!
2mph above a speed limit .................. bong, bong, bong, bong, bong!
I spoke to the dealer when I took the car back and he said the warning bongs could be turned off but are reset when the car is restarted for the next journey.
No thanks, that would definitely have stopped me from buying one.
On the plus side, it did have a fantastic heads up display and was quite quick in sport mode with the traction control turned off.
 
Slime said:
I recently had the use of a hybrid car for a day.
I can't comment on fuel efficiency or anything like that as I only did about 50 miles.
However, and this really did my head in, almost everything I did resulted in a warning bing or bong!
When I opened my door I got a bong and a dashboard warning to be aware of children in the back.
When stuck in traffic and the car in front pulled away I had another message on the dash saying 'The lead car is moving on', what is that all about?
A) It's not moving on, it's moving off and
B) I have eyes, they're quite useful when driving a car, I can see the car in front moving OFF, thanks!
2mph above a speed limit .................. bong, bong, bong, bong, bong!
I spoke to the dealer when I took the car back and he said the warning bongs could be turned off but are reset when the car is restarted for the next journey.
No thanks, that would definitely have stopped me from buying one.
On the plus side, it did have a fantastic heads up display and was quite quick in sport mode with the traction control turned off.
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Not just hybrids, I have had a number of hire cars through work recently and all were the same. Last week had an MG petrol SUV that didn’t like the fact I was wearing sunglasses and kept bonging with a message to concentrate and look at the road. Had to turn it off every time I restarted the engine.
 
Slime said:
I recently had the use of a hybrid car for a day.
I can't comment on fuel efficiency or anything like that as I only did about 50 miles.
However, and this really did my head in, almost everything I did resulted in a warning bing or bong!
When I opened my door I got a bong and a dashboard warning to be aware of children in the back.
When stuck in traffic and the car in front pulled away I had another message on the dash saying 'The lead car is moving on', what is that all about?
A) It's not moving on, it's moving off and
B) I have eyes, they're quite useful when driving a car, I can see the car in front moving OFF, thanks!
2mph above a speed limit .................. bong, bong, bong, bong, bong!
I spoke to the dealer when I took the car back and he said the warning bongs could be turned off but are reset when the car is restarted for the next journey.
No thanks, that would definitely have stopped me from buying one.
On the plus side, it did have a fantastic heads up display and was quite quick in sport mode with the traction control turned off.
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I drive lots of different cars for work and get loads of "Bongs"
can't remember when I last had a "Bing" though
:unsure:
 
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