The all things EV chat thread

[RichA]

ICE car fires burn more fiercely than bicycle fires but, at some point, society had to make a risk vs benefit decision.

 

[larmen]

Likelihood v severity. Some consultants earn the money to afford mansions discussing these things in posh hotels.

At the end it is probably a wash.


BTW, how would a hydrogen fire be in comparison? ;-)

 

[doublebogey7]

I guess with more and more EV appearing then there will be more EV/hybrid fires ( still proportionally lower than ICe )

Surely reducing the number of car fires by something like 95% fewer fires is to be celebrated. No argument that each one individually will cause more damage but the damage overall will be lower I would have thought.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Surely reducing the number of car fires by something like 95% fewer fires is to be celebrated. No argument that each one individually will cause more damage but the damage overall will be lower I would have thought.

Ironically hybrids are some of the worst. They have the ice components to have that ignition and then have the battery to cause havoc as opposed to ev which takes away that ignition cause

Also 700% increase in fires is such a misleading statement. If it was 1 fire before and now 7 that would be a 700% increase but 6 more fires doesn't sound as catchy

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Surely reducing the number of car fires by something like 95% fewer fires is to be celebrated. No argument that each one individually will cause more damage but the damage overall will be lower I would have thought.

Very much so

Wonder hybrids are adding any extra

 

[Burnsey]

This whole thread is those for versus those against.

There's literally no in between and therefore no discussion.

I'm against - bland cars for bland people.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

ICE car fires burn more fiercely than bicycle fires but, at some point, society had to make a risk vs benefit decision.

One thing ive personally never understood is motorcycles. Sure they look cool but you can bearly carry anything with you. The riders look like they will arrive with a bad back to their destination and most worrying if involved in a crash there is naff all to protect you

 

[Deleted member 35927]

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This whole thread is those for versus those against.

There's literally no in between and therefore no discussion.

I'm against - bland cars for bland people.

Nope just making an effort to stop the misinformation

 

[Deleted member 21784]

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Nope just making an effort to stop the misinformation

To be fair I want to make the point that hobbits post wasn't misinformation everything in it was correct I was just adding context of amount of fires compared etc

 

[Bunkermagnet]

One thing ive personally never understood is motorcycles. Sure they look cool but you can bearly carry anything with you. The riders look like they will arrive with a bad back to their destination and most worrying if involved in a crash there is naff all to protect you

If you dont have one, why worry?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

If you dont have one, why worry?

Case and point with this entire thread no?....

 

[larmen]

One thing ive personally never understood is motorcycles. Sure they look cool but you can bearly carry anything with you. The riders look like they will arrive with a bad back to their destination and most worrying if involved in a crash there is naff all to protect you

I can get into central London for a pound, including ulez, congestion charge and parking, faster than the train

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I can get into central London for a pound, including ulez, congestion charge and parking, faster than the train

Fair play , is your congestion charge ending this year aswell? I couldn't do it, would be too worried with the state of other drivers in London these days

 

[Pin-seeker]

This whole thread is those for versus those against.

There's literally no in between and therefore no discussion.

I'm against - bland cars for bland people.

It’s basically the LIV thread,but cars.

I’m bored…pick phone up & make the same points for a few hours.

Next day….. repeat

 

[Burnsey]

Case and point with this entire thread no?....

Not really mate. A motorcycle, albeit a mode of transport is as bad a comparison as golf versus tennis. Both sports, but nowt in common apart from a bat and ball.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Case and point with this entire thread no?....

Only that cars and their future propulsion will affect us all

 

[RichA]

This whole thread is those for versus those against.

There's literally no in between and therefore no discussion.

I'm against - bland cars for bland people.

For what it's worth, I'm on the fence.
Torn between replacing my much loved Golf R (for reasons of practicality) with a boring new ICE estate/SUV or a boring new electric SUV.
All my preferred ICE cars have gone nuts for irritating and unnecessary touchscreens and haptic controls.
The electric cars I'm interested in are either too small in the back or just too expensive. And the electric drive experience still makes me feel like I'm going to lose my lunch.

 

[Burnsey]

For what it's worth, I'm on the fence.
Torn between replacing my much loved Golf R (for reasons of practicality) with a boring new ICE estate/SUV or a boring new electric SUV.
All my preferred ICE cars have gone nuts for irritating and unnecessary touchscreens and haptic controls.
The electric cars I'm interested in are either too small in the back or just too expensive. And the electric drive experience still makes me feel like I'm going to lose my lunch.

The 'against' tends to be 1. depreciation, but, as I am learning, good monthly value if on a PCP type deal and you qualify for tax benefits, 2. convenience, which is me (no, not ready to change) and 3. they're damn ugly.

I will have one at some stage.

 

[doublebogey7]

Ironically hybrids are some of the worst. They have the ice components to have that ignition and then have the battery to cause havoc as opposed to ev which takes away that ignition cause

Also 700% increase in fires is such a misleading statement. If it was 1 fire before and now 7 that would be a 700% increase but 6 more fires doesn't sound as catchy

The claim was a 77% increase, which even if true reduces the ratio from 1/80 (ev/ice) to around 1/50.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

The claim was a 77% increase, which even if true reduces the ratio from 1/80 (ev/ice) to around 1/50.

Apologies im running on fumes today (if you pardon the pun) I miss read. Not that much an increase at all then in real world numbers