The all things EV chat thread

[hambugerpete]

I don't know, he doesn't know.
They have made their ruling on it, and thats that.

Sounds like some sort of bs. I mean plug in charge, unplug drive. Can't really see what you can do wrong.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I was told by an exec from an EV company that the battery needs to be charged, and then mostly discharged to prolong battery life

If it does 25 miles and is then recharged, or is constantly on charge unless it is being driven. over a long period, this can impact battery life.

might be something like this

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Sounds like some sort of bs. I mean plug in charge, unplug drive. Can't really see what you can do wrong.

Thats what he thought.
Why would he lie, he loved the car.

 

[PJ87]

I was told by an exec from an EV company that the battery needs to be charged, and then mostly discharged to prolong battery life

If it does 25 miles and is then recharged, or is constantly on charge unless it is being driven. over a long period, this can impact battery life.

might be something like this

Which is where the 80% myth came from. I drive 50 miles , charge then drive another 50 most of time but never leave at 100% for more than a day

 

[hambugerpete]

I was told by an exec from an EV company that the battery needs to be charged, and then mostly discharged to prolong battery life

If it does 25 miles and is then recharged, or is constantly on charge unless it is being driven. over a long period, this can impact battery life.

might be something like this

I can't see how that could possibly void the warranty.

 

[hambugerpete]

Thats what he thought.
Why would he lie, he loved the car.

Has to be more to it then.

 

[cliveb]

One of our swindle groups brother has a Merc EV. Its been playing up for a little while. Merc dealer has decided the battery pack needs replacing, but it's failure is due to his charging of it and the warranty doesn't cover it. They only want 10k.

As others have said, this is utter BS.
If the car doesn't have control systems to prevent incorrect charging, then it's not fit for purpose. End Of.

 

[PJ87]

So we went M1 to Warwick. Stopped at Newport pagnell 70 miles away from home

Left home 98%
Got there 78%

Charged up to 93% whilst we had lunch (now once it hits 80% was very slow so if we had been at say 40% would have put us back to 80 easily but more than enough)

We now have enough to get home in one but we find 1 hour 30 mins perfect for the girls bladders . We continued to Warwick castle which we got to with 74% which as I said can get us home but will top up if chargers are available at the services. 13/16 were available on way up

Very successful drive

 

[bobmac]

So we went M1 to Warwick. Stopped at Newport pagnell 70 miles away from home

Left home 98%
Got there 78%

Charged up to 93% whilst we had lunch (now once it hits 80% was very slow so if we had been at say 40% would have put us back to 80 easily but more than enough)

We now have enough to get home in one but we find 1 hour 30 mins perfect for the girls bladders . We continued to Warwick castle which we got to with 74% which as I said can get us home but will top up if chargers are available at the services. 13/16 were available on way up

Very successful drive

Unfortunately, for every bad news story of EV charging, there are probably 1000 good news stories never told. Sadly, this will continue for years to come and in some cases, justified but the charging infrastructure is growing every day.
1,135 new chargers installed last month taking the total up to 106,094 connectors

 

[PJ87]

Unfortunately, for every bad news story of EV charging, there are probably 1000 good news stories never told. Sadly, this will continue for years to come and in some cases, justified but the charging infrastructure is growing every day.
1,135 new chargers installed last month taking the total up to 106,094 connectors

Bad news sells, good news is boring.

It was very useful I just started the charge in the electroverse app and walked in. It was so simple to start by the time I started the charge the wife had got the kids into the services.. and hadn't even got to the toilet yet..

50 min stop total , if we charge tomorrow I'll get a lot more in the battery as it will be less full so the speed will ramp up

 

[cliveb]

We now have enough to get home in one but we find 1 hour 30 mins perfect for the girls bladders . We continued to Warwick castle which we got to with 74% which as I said can get us home but will top up if chargers are available at the services. 13/16 were available on way up

I'm confused.
If you can get home with what you've got (where you can charge the car at about 7p a unit) why would you even consider paying >50p at a public charger on the way?

 

[PJ87]

I'm confused.
If you can get home with what you've got (where you can charge the car at about 7p a unit) why would you even consider paying >50p at a public charger on the way?

We will be stopping regardless, so I'll charge just to have "just incase" range, I mean everyone worries that what if you need to go on a 59 mile diversion

Will only cost £10-20 so I'm not worried.

 

[cliveb]

We will be stopping regardless, so I'll charge just to have "just incase" range, I mean everyone worries that what if you need to go on a 59 mile diversion

Will only cost £10-20 so I'm not worried.

Hold the front page - EV fan in range anxiety shock!
(Only teasing, Paul. Just a bit of banter)

Your point about an unexpected diversion is taken, but surely there must be other chargers on that route if needed?
Or at least that's what people keep saying - that the charging infrastructure is getting very acceptable. (Or perhaps not? )

 

[PJ87]

Hold the front page - EV fan in range anxiety shock!
(Only teasing, Paul. Just a bit of banter)

Your point about an unexpected diversion is taken, but surely there must be other chargers on that route if needed?
Or at least that's what people keep saying - that the charging infrastructure is getting very acceptable. (Or perhaps not? )

It's more the fact we are stopped regardless so ABC, always be charging .. why waste a 20 mins or more stop ? If you can charge top up and then won't need to make unexpected stops

 

[cliveb]

It's more the fact we are stopped regardless so ABC, always be charging .. why waste a 20 mins or more stop ? If you can charge top up and then won't need to make unexpected stops

But aren't you one of the guys who says that EVs are best suited when you can home charge?
You seem to be very interested in how much your PV system saves you, so I'd have thought you would have the same attitude regarding the cost of running a car.
I just don't understand why anyone would voluntarily pay more than 5 times the price for electricity when they don't need to.

 

[PJ87]

But aren't you one of the guys who says that EVs are best suited when you can home charge?
You seem to be very interested in how much your PV system saves you, so I'd have thought you would have the same attitude regarding the cost of running a car.
I just don't understand why anyone would voluntarily pay more than 5 times the price for electricity when they don't need to.

Yes they are , however the charge network isn't bad and I don't mind using it when required

Considering how much I save charging at work / the golf club I'm really not concerned about £20 extra

I've done 10729 miles thus far since measuring charging at a total cost of £109.52 (£72 public included)... So even if I put £30 in tomorrow it would keep the cost per mile at 0.013p

It's a drop in the ocean (considering how much snacks cost at Warwick it just gets chucked on the trip costs)

 

[hambugerpete]

Yes they are , however the charge network isn't bad and I don't mind using it when required

Considering how much I save charging at work / the golf club I'm really not concerned about £20 extra

I've done 10729 miles thus far since measuring charging at a total cost of £109.52 (£72 public included)... So even if I put £30 in tomorrow it would keep the cost per mile at 0.013p

It's a drop in the ocean (considering how much snacks cost at Warwick it just gets chucked on the trip costs)

Just looking at my ohme stats. Spent 330 on charging this year and done 10500 miles.and I drive like I stole it TBF

 

[PJ87]

Just looking at my ohme stats. Spent 330 on charging this year and done 10500 miles.and I drive like I stole it TBF

I'd be nearer that without golf club charging to be fair

However if I have or choose to use the public network it don't bother me

IE I won't worry about the pence per kWh , even if one was 10p cheaper just down the road id just use what's needed to get me going

 

[upsidedown]

I'd be nearer that without golf club charging to be fair

However if I have or choose to use the public network it don't bother me

IE I won't worry about the pence per kWh , even if one was 10p cheaper just down the road id just use what's needed to get me going

Do you get free charging at the golf club? We've not put chargers in yet ?

 

[hambugerpete]

I'd be nearer that without golf club charging to be fair

However if I have or choose to use the public network it don't bother me

IE I won't worry about the pence per kWh , even if one was 10p cheaper just down the road id just use what's needed to get me going

Add to that all the smart charging which gets me 7p for the whole house ,I average 10p per kWh on my bills.