chrisd
Major Champion
Great mental attitude there then
Stroke Index 18
- Thread starter chico
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DeanoMK
Club Champion
One of the most annoying I've played is the 11th at Bedfordshire GC, not overly long but always dead into the wind!
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The only person not getting a shot on the 2nd is scratch or better so very few really impacted
NearHull
Well-known member
Our SI 18 is our shortest of the four par 5s at 477yds. The others par 5s are over 500yds and are SI 13, 15 & 16.
Hacked
New member
All of my birdies…ever, have been on par 3’s and 4’s. I’ve only ever managed, at best, a par on a par 5. I know where I’d prefer the SI to give me a “theoretical” shot.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
At the opposite end of the scale Bamburgh Castle Par 3 6th hole is Stroke Index 1. 208yds off the Whites, 202 off the Yellows.
Not sure I’ve seen a Par 3 as SI 1 before.
Not sure I’ve seen a Par 3 as SI 1 before.
chico
Club Champion
I find par 3s around 200 yds very difficult. Would probably be one of the hardest holes on a course for me.
Hacked
New member
Yep. I’ve played a couple of places where the SI 1 has been a par 3 of over 200yds. At one course I’ve played a number of times I’ve never hit the green off the tee.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
One of our par 3s is 212 off the whites, 200 off the yellows. Another is 197/185.
Most of the seniors I play with take driver on both.
To me, par 3s should be about accuracy, not how far you can hit it. If it was my course, I’d take 50 yards off all of our par 3s, that would make them a lot more enjoyable.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Not in a match which is the scenario posed. The higher handicap in every match will get a shot
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Surely the high handicap only gets a shot on SI holes 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10? Both would get a shot on SI 1
Neilds
Assistant Pro
No!!!! In a match the lower handicap plays off scratch and the higher handicap would get 5 shots - in the 5 v 10 match. These shots would be taken on SI 1 to 5
tobybarker
Active member
Matchplay so 5hcp doesnt get any shots at all in this scenario
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I'm sure chris knows this & its just the way he's written it
The 5 h/capper player he's referring to, is in the context of the match handicaps and is actually the 10 handicap player
Not just the seniors
. Those that don't most likely should but ego gets in the way.Totally agree with your last paragraph. In a wonderfully well designed course, they are the clear weakness.
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Oh ok didn’t know that
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Not just the seniors
Totally agree with your last paragraph. In a wonderfully well designed course, they are the clear weakness.
There are many 200 yard par 3’s that are far from a weakness and imo each course should have one par 3 that is over 180 yards
A par 3 is about getting the ball in the hole in 3 shots , it’s no different to a long par 4 and people having 180-200 yards left for their second shot
People want short par 3’s because they expect to be able to hit the green in one and believe it should be a good chance at par - and most will have shots on these
Most of the long par 3’s will have a lower SI so people will get a shot and are not expected to par it
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I hit driver to our 229 yard par 2 first and our 217 yard seventeenth. Had no issue doing so and was pin high just off the green with both. Use the right club or don't moan when you are short or way offline because you swung too hard and made a bad swing at itNot just the seniors
Totally agree with your last paragraph. In a wonderfully well designed course, they are the clear weakness.
louise_a
Money List Winner
SIs only really bother me in match play, 3 of our 6 lowest are in the first 5 holes which makes or a tough start when giving shots, but in stroke play it evens itself out.
Backache
Assistant Pro
In a matchplay situation par is utterly irrelevant.
In medal play the hole you get a stroke is utterly irrelevant. In Stableford it affects where you score not usually your total score.
Why should two holes one yard difference one a par 3 and one a par 4 be more or less easy for a particular handicap?
In medal play the hole you get a stroke is utterly irrelevant. In Stableford it affects where you score not usually your total score.
Why should two holes one yard difference one a par 3 and one a par 4 be more or less easy for a particular handicap?
