srixon 1
Journeyman Pro
Our greens just went from sloooow to fast overnight. This resulted in a nearly five hour 4BBB round.
Slow play again
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SteveJay
Head Pro
Think the problem might get worse as younger players copy the pros they see on TV.
Teeing off today on out 18th, I watched a young lad play the first. After hitting a good tee shot (might have been his second shot actually), he was about 50 yards from the front of the green, but proceeded to walk right up to the pin to survey the green, before returning to his ball and playing a pitch (which actually went through the green
).
Wouldn't have wanted to be stuck behind that group
.
Teeing off today on out 18th, I watched a young lad play the first. After hitting a good tee shot (might have been his second shot actually), he was about 50 yards from the front of the green, but proceeded to walk right up to the pin to survey the green, before returning to his ball and playing a pitch (which actually went through the green
).Wouldn't have wanted to be stuck behind that group
.
Mandofred
Well-known member
Tasers....should be manditory equipment to deal with this.Think the problem might get worse as younger players copy the pros they see on TV.
Teeing off today on out 18th, I watched a young lad play the first. After hitting a good tee shot (might have been his second shot actually), he was about 50 yards from the front of the green, but proceeded to walk right up to the pin to survey the green, before returning to his ball and playing a pitch (which actually went through the green
Wouldn't have wanted to be stuck behind that group
sunshine
Well-known member
Due to the soft ground conditions this year, the grass has been cut a lot less than normal for this time of year, and is particularly lush. Now we've had a spell of warm weather and suddenly the grass has shot up. Anything in the tree line is lost. Made for a very slow round at the weekend, looking for Titleist branded needles in a haystack.
sunshine
Well-known member
Alternative way to reduce round times:
Berkshire course hosts Speedgolf pairs championship
Fourteen pairs played in the tournament at Sand Martins Golf Club in Berkshire on Sunday.
www.bbc.co.uk
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Same here. Last two rounds have been well over four hours which is just daft at our place. Both times a medal comp was being played though as well. Twice yesterday someone from the group in front walked back to the tee box to hit again as they'd lost a ball without hitting a provisional.
Captain_Black.
Well-known member
I was unfortunate enough to be playing behind a 4x ball of 1st team players on a white tee medal last Sat.
Apart from them having to wait for the group in front to clear the greens at 200 yards + because they hit the ball so far, they took forever over their chips & putts.
OK, I get they are as good as they are because they are pedantic about their set up & haven't got the shots to throw away on a poorly executed shot, but really!
4.5 hours later & still on the course, I just wanted it to end & have a beer
Apart from them having to wait for the group in front to clear the greens at 200 yards + because they hit the ball so far, they took forever over their chips & putts.
OK, I get they are as good as they are because they are pedantic about their set up & haven't got the shots to throw away on a poorly executed shot, but really!
4.5 hours later & still on the course, I just wanted it to end & have a beer
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
I’ve just left my club as pace of play is horrific and getting worse.
4BBB was 4hr 50mins Sunday, that was from the first group who gapped then 2nd group by full two holes by the 18th.
Two weeks ago the greensomes took 4hrs 40mins and we gapped the group behind. We were off at 8.30 but the course was completely backed up from the first group. The marshal asked us on the turn how we were playing, I responded with very slow, if you could find the culprit and tell them to get a bloody move on!
4BBB was 4hr 50mins Sunday, that was from the first group who gapped then 2nd group by full two holes by the 18th.
Two weeks ago the greensomes took 4hrs 40mins and we gapped the group behind. We were off at 8.30 but the course was completely backed up from the first group. The marshal asked us on the turn how we were playing, I responded with very slow, if you could find the culprit and tell them to get a bloody move on!
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Seems our comp rounds are definitely getting slower. Over 4 hours for medal on Saturday in 3 balls
Dunesman
Well-known member
Slow play. Watching some of the darts over the holidays, I was struck by the speed at which they play. Not my game, and jumping on the Luke Littler hype. Its a touch game, pressurised, and matches can swing quickly. But man do they just get on with it. No aligning, breathing, visualising, etc that is the bane of golf. They just hit.
Golfers could learn from them, and does make me believe golf indeed might have been like that back in the day, and the stories of the old guys do have some truth to them
Golfers could learn from them, and does make me believe golf indeed might have been like that back in the day, and the stories of the old guys do have some truth to them
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
To be fair every shot/throw in darts is the same length and in the same conditions...every time.
Admittedly their target is smaller but the game distance is vastly different.
I don't think it's unnatural for golfers to take more time over a shot than a dartist.....there's more to take into account..
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Agree, the' court' never changes, the weather never changes, the 'club' never changes, the target never changes
What's taking darts players so long!
While we're young guys!!
3 jabber
Well-known member
Majors used to play 36 holes on the final day. Now the PGA tour is considering smaller fields to get everyone round before dark. Go figure.
IanM
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Look at the old clips of Hogan or Palmer. On the tee, practice swing and go. Now they stand there for ages discussing the impact of the butterflies wings in the next field
How big were the fields back then? I'm not being smart, I don't know. They have to be much smaller at that point you would think. Courses were also shorter, although not silly short to be fair.
3 jabber
Well-known member
It's irrelevant. Pro golf is approaching 6hr rounds now. You'd be lucky to get 20 players round 36 holes at that pace.
It isn't irrelevant if you want to make a genuine comparison. Fields now are large and they get bunched. Players are undoubtedly slower but I don't believe they ran around back in the day.
A quick google suggests the Open stopped being 36 holes in one day back in 1891. They used 36 holes in one day in play offs up until 1963 but clearly a play off field is pretty small.
So, the 36 holes in a day comparison is not really valid.
3 jabber
Well-known member
The Open was 36 on final day until 1965 with a field of 130.
Backache
Assistant Pro
The Open being held in Scotland in early July does tend to have rather long daylight hours. I used to play till 10 pm when I was working in July.
AI Google was wrong
. I looked up the 1964 open as a random choice. Two rounds on the final day, as you point out. Field cut to 45 though. The number you quote is the full field. At the last open, 80 players made the cut. Apples and oranges........
